limp wrist ?

 

limp

No, and It wasn’t doing this the first 5-6 times I shot the gun.

 

Just offering an idea, jeesh

 

I have only had this issue with Hornady critical defense. Only that ammo.

Sorry to hear!

 

Three items:

- First, let another well-experienced handgun shooter (preferably one who has a good track record with the XD/XDm) shoot the gun, both two-handed/freestyle as well as single handed (left handed, in-particular).

It's always best to first take yourself out of the troubleshooting tree if at all possible, no matter how experienced of a shooter you may be.

- Second question is whether if you have tried different ammo. Simplify the equation even further and try different, factory-new ammo.

Sometimes, one specific gun just won't like one specific ammo. No rhyme or reason (actually, it's just weird tolerance-stacking). Always vet your ammo, in case you haven't done so already.

A subset of this is whether you have bee shooting the same box - or even same lot - of ammo, and that's what's giving you problems. You're right, 4 in 90 is excessive, but in my experience (although I haven't been shooting all that long, I did go through the '12 craze, and shooters who lived through that period can attest to the Q/A and Q/C problems we encountered, even of highly-regarded factory new ammo), it's not unheard of for a single box/lot of problematic ammo to present with such high numbers.

- Next in line would be magazines. Have you tried more than one magazine. Assuming that you have your magazines uniquely identified so that you can absolutely and positively ID individual mags, can you trace stoppages to (a) specific mag(s)?

 

Great response from TsiWrx above. When this happened to me and my XDM, I was limp-wristing and shooting Tula or some other aluminum cased rounds. I cleaned the heck out of it, lubricated according to the manual, put some muscle in my wrist and fed quality ammo. Never happened again.

 

Has anyone else had jamming issues with their 9 mm XD-M? the empty casings aren't ejecting out of the gun, they are getting stuck and the gun jams when trying to load the next round.

I had this issue with a Ruger 40 cal before, they replaced the extractor, actually they sent me the extractor and I replaced it. That fixed it. I

Did they list what the fixed or replaced?

 

I had this issue with a Ruger 40 cal before, they replaced the extractor, actually they sent me the extractor and I replaced it.

I'd tweek the extractor first, and the suggestions TSiWRX said were spot on.
Vary mags, vary ammo, have a buddy try it to eliminate yourself from the equation.
Sounds to me like a simple extractor fix though.
Good luck.

 

I appreciate all of the comments!

Oldkid: I wasn't trying to be harsh at all, I was only saying I don't think I'm limp wristing it, and that the first 5-6 times I shot the gun it never had this problem so I doubt I am limp wristing it as it would have jammed then I would think. That being said the next time I shoot I will pay extra attention to having a strong grip/wrist. (when/if I get the gun back from Springfield).

Tsiwrx: the gun has jammed when my buddy shot it as well. I've tried a bunch of different ammo, Browning, Remington, Aguila. One doesn't seem better or worse than the others. I have three different magazines and haven't tried to see if one could be the issue, good idea, I will start now.

Masterchither: The first time I sent it back they 'refit the extractor'...

I'm still waiting to hear back from Springfield again after I told them to shoot some more rounds to see if they can duplicate the issue...

 

I got 2 xdm Pistols. 1 in 9mm 1 in .40cal. Both Are flawless in past 8 Years. Just went trought a school with The 9mm. 2500 rounds without cleaning, (2 day class) zero malfunctions. Took it apart to cleanafter class and after looking at it, decided not to because it wasn’t really filthy. It was super dry so I lubed it and put it back together.

 

Just went trought a school with The 9mm. 2500 rounds without cleaning, (2 day class) zero malfunctions.

Wow, that's a high-round-count class!!!

Mind sharing where/who?

 

Plus one on the magazines.

 

Your problem is the barrel needs to be reamed. Very common problem. The tolerances are very tight. When the round fires, it expands and gets stuck due to those tight tolerances. Getting the barrel reamed will solve this. Do not give up on a good firearm. It is a small problem with a easy fix. Just let Springfield know it needs to be reamed and polished, it will be just fine. I've had this happen to my 1911 EMP4 CCC, had it reamed and polished by Springfield, not a single problem since. Over 3 thousand rounds later. They just need to know what to do. Good luck.

 

Your problem is the barrel needs to be reamed. Very common problem. The tolerances are very tight. When the round fires, it expands and gets stuck due to those tight tolerances. Getting the barrel reamed will solve this. Do not give up on a good firearm. It is a small problem with a easy fix. Just let Springfield know it needs to be reamed and polished, it will be just fine.

Probably not.

You can plunk test to "kinda" see if the chamber needs reamed, unlikely. More likely than needing reamed is a polish/throat job. I doubt the chamber is too short or tight. If you pass the test you're probably okay. You can also use a permanent marker on a dummy round loaded to factory spec to see how thing look "anecdotally" but a Gunsmith is the final call IMO. A quick spring change and extractor inspection is a good idea as well. SA warranty service is top notch if needed

 

I appreciate all of the comments!

Oldkid: I wasn't trying to be harsh at all, I was only saying I don't think I'm limp wristing it, and that the first 5-6 times I shot the gun it never had this problem so I doubt I am limp wristing it as it would have jammed then I would think. That being said the next time I shoot I will pay extra attention to having a strong grip/wrist. (when/if I get the gun back from Springfield).

Tsiwrx: the gun has jammed when my buddy shot it as well. I've tried a bunch of different ammo, Browning, Remington, Aguila. One doesn't seem better or worse than the others. I have three different magazines and haven't tried to see if one could be the issue, good idea, I will start now.

Masterchither: The first time I sent it back they 'refit the extractor'...

I'm still waiting to hear back from Springfield again after I told them to shoot some more rounds to see if they can duplicate the issue...

Limp wristing is not the problem. The barrel needs a ream and polish job. Simple fix. It just has some tight tolerances. That's all.

 

I appreciate all of the comments!

Oldkid: I wasn't trying to be harsh at all, I was only saying I don't think I'm limp wristing it, and that the first 5-6 times I shot the gun it never had this problem so I doubt I am limp wristing it as it would have jammed then I would think. That being said the next time I shoot I will pay extra attention to having a strong grip/wrist. (when/if I get the gun back from Springfield).

Tsiwrx: the gun has jammed when my buddy shot it as well. I've tried a bunch of different ammo, Browning, Remington, Aguila. One doesn't seem better or worse than the others. I have three different magazines and haven't tried to see if one could be the issue, good idea, I will start now.

Masterchither: The first time I sent it back they 'refit the extractor'...

I'm still waiting to hear back from Springfield again after I told them to shoot some more rounds to see if they can duplicate the issue...

Is this with the 4.5" barrel XDM in 9mm? And, are the jams occurring with 19 round magazines?

The reason I ask is because when I had purchased my XDM 4.5" barrel version in 9mm, I was getting jams with the two 19 round magazines that came with my gun from the factory. I read somewhere that there were some issues with the factory 19 round magazines having jams. I contacted Springfield, sent them my two defective factory 19 round magazines. They sent me two new 19 round magazines and I have never had any jams with the new magazines.

Also, you can try purchasing new magazine springs for the 19 round XDM 9mm magazines from here: https://www.gunsprings.com/
Their springs are 10% stronger than the factory magazine springs. I have these installed in a few 19 round magazines and they work great - no jams. Also, because these springs are 10% stronger than the factory ones, they should last longer as well. If you have the XDM 9mm in the 4.5" version, and the jams are with the factory 19 round magazines, I would ask Springfield to replace them with new ones for you.

 

You are the first person to speak about the 10% springs. I have them in every mag I own, ar-15s to Xd's. They just work. I only have two firearms without them and that's because they don't make them yet. To me they are a must buy if you want reliable feeding no matter the firearm. I don't think I'll need them for my Hellcat as those springs are stiff as bricks. If they do make them I'll be purchasing them.

 

I will also add that I had a gunsmith do a polish and throat job on my 4.5" barrel XDM in 9mm. I was getting jams even after that when using the two factory 19 round magazines. I know for sure that the springs were probably weak in those factory magazines. Springfield said they knew about some defective magazine springs and had me send in both of my 19 rounds magazines. They sent me two new 19 round mags and they both have worked without issue.

Again, I also purchased a few spare 19 round magazines and put in Wolff Springs +10% strength springs in them. No jams whatsoever with the 10% stronger springs. If you have the 4.5" XDM in 9mm, I would try them and also ask Springfield for new magazines. It should fix your issues.

 

^ Thank you for that data - it's still better than not having any period of reference!

 

You're welcome 8)

 

final update: springfield issued me a full refund and they kept the gun. thanks for everyone's input.

 

^ Nothing from them as to what was wrong?

 

You gonna get another? I understand the bitter taste in your mouth but that gun was an outlier. The vast majority are good to go.
I like mine especially with the PRP trigger.

 

final update: springfield issued me a full refund and they kept the gun. thanks for everyone's input.

Please let us know what they told you and if they told you what was wrong . Any information will help us other Xd guys and thanks for letting us know all the information so far.

 

Interesting outcome. I’d love to hear what SA said about it.

 

I have a "full size" XDM 4.5" in .40, and a XDM Compact 3.8" in 9mm, and after thousands of rounds in classes and practice with zero failures of any sort. The only malfunctions I have had were instructor forced as he created double-feeds or whatever for practice clearing etc. Out of anything I have run, my two XDM's have had no problems of any sort, including running cheap steel cased ammo that caused a Glock and a S&W to choke.

 

final update: springfield issued me a full refund and they kept the gun. thanks for everyone's input.

Any update on what they said the issue was?

 

Yeah, I'm in the never had that issue club. The two XDM 9MM pistols I have never, ever had a failure to feed, failure to fire or failure to extract/eject issue with hand loads, factory loads, 115 grain to 147 grain, jacketed or lead bullets.

So far the XD 45 has not had a failure to feed/extract/eject. Failure to fire, yes, but that's another issue.

 

Wow, that's a high-round-count class!!!

Mind sharing where/who?

Sorry for a late reply. Haven’t visited the forum in a while. It was with @greybeardactual in McHenry county in Illinois. Yes I never shot that much in 2 days.

 

There's some things that can only be learned from putting that many rounds downrange. Good stuff.

I've heard/seen GreyBeard Actual on P&S, but didn't know anyone who had attended one of their classes until just now. How did you like it? If you would be so kind as to frame that reply (if you have the time to reply, that is, don't worry if you don't!) in terms of your other classes/competition experience (or "just" life experience ), I would definitely appreciate it.

 

It was pretty good. He shots competitively and he can definitely explain the little tricks to become a better competitor. I’m not interested in competition but I wanted to reinforce my fundamentals from that class. Shooting is a perishable skill if you don’t practice and I like to get training anytime I can. He was a supervisor on my team. I am a LEO 14 years and assigned to a SWAT team for last 5 years.

 

^ Thank you!

I should be able to get on the road to out-of-state classes in about 4 more years: I've been compiling a list of whos/wheres.

I think I'll definitely be making as stop there!

I'm looking to start competition this spring/summer, finally.

Thank you for taking the time to respond. Stay safe out there.