There is no taking parts off the P30 to take it down. You may be thinking about the HK45.My only complaints with the P30 were the controls and trigger placement. The controls were not in the same place as other guns I own and my finger rubbed on the trigger guard. I did not like the take down. I don't like having to take parts off to get the gun apart. The P30 certainly shoots well but I am very, very happy with my XDM's and wouldn't part with either of them.
Sorry but the XD and XDM's trigger is not Double Action at all. It is also not single action. It is striker fire - sort of like a Glock. Pulling the trigger finishes cocking it and releases the firing pin. It depends on the motion of the slide to reset the pin and partially cock the gun. If it were DAO, you could pull the trigger twice in a row (with no round in the chamber and the magazine) and it would dry fire twice. I don't mean to call you out but a lot of people are confused about this.:shock:The guns themselves, although they do share a polymer-type frame, are completely different pistols. The XDM is a DAO/dual-action type trigger set, whereas the P30 is a DA/SA Variant 3 trigger group with a rear frame placed decocker, like that on the P2000.
Clearly you missed the fact I also said it was "dual-action", meaning not necessarily DAO, but also not a SA.Sorry but the XD and XDM's trigger is not Double Action at all. It is also not single action.
Clearly we both understand how these trigger systems work. What I was attempting to do was point out that the XDs are not double action only. To the novice shooter, the line DAO/dual-action type trigger set doesn't mean much more than DAO. It's much easier to identify the mechanism correctly as striker-fired to avoid confusion. There is enough confusion out there with people thinking that Glocks are DAO (I don't know how this one got started but it's there.) this shouldn't be applied to XD's as well. I did not say that XD's were single action either. I did say that I don't want to call you out, this wasn't meant as a personal attack on you in case you took it that way.Clearly you missed the fact I also said it was "dual-action", meaning not necessarily DAO, but also not a SA.
I don't care how you want to slice it, but to say an XD or even a Glock is SA is completely untrue. You still have to pull the inner trigger to disengage your safeties to fully squeeze the trigger resulting in engagement of the striker. In case you didn't notice, that's two actions, not one, which by definition makes it "dual" action.
The only people in the gun world that I do not like are those irresponsible ones who ignore gun safety. You are one of the good ones trying to learn as much as possible. I bet 99% if the forum are the good ones, or else they wouldn't be here!TMWNM,
Well, then, it sounds like we're both actually on the same page. So in hindsight for the uninformed (so as not to allow them to be misinformed), I should have worded my original post as DA/dual-action, rather than DAO, as neither the XD (or Glock) is a DAO firing mechanism.
Sorry for any confusion that may have caused; certainly not my intent.