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What would I have to do to safely shoot occasional or carry-only .45 Super ammo in my XD .45 Tactical? Is it even recommended? Any specific recommendations for optional or necessary recoil and striker spring upgrades? Thank you. HB of CJ (old coot)
 

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Not good for your stock pistol.
 
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45 Super is externally/dimensionally identical to 45 acp or 45 acp+P and is designed to be used in 45 acp semi auto pistols that have been fitted with stronger than normal recoil springs and a shock buffer, plus a couple other modifications. While you can shoot 45 SUPER out of some stock 45 acp+P pistols such as the Glock 21, HK USP or the full sized all steel 1911, you will batter your pistol if you do not have them modified to handle the extra pressure and slide velocity of the 45 Super.
 

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there are a few interesting threads, google this:

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45 Super is externally/dimensionally identical to 45 acp or 45 acp+P and is designed to be used in 45 acp semi auto pistols that have been fitted with stronger than normal recoil springs and a shock buffer, plus a couple other modifications. While you can shoot 45 SUPER out of some stock 45 acp+P pistols such as the Glock 21, HK USP or the full sized all steel 1911, you will batter your pistol if you do not have them modified to handle the extra pressure and slide velocity of the 45 Super.
What are you basing your info on?

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The .45 ACP and .45 Super have identical cases. The Super's case is sightly thicker there by increasing pressure. You can shoot them in any .45 ACP pistol, but I would highly recommend that you do not because of excess pressures and the battering your firearm will take unless it is specifically chambered for the .45 Super. Ideally you should also have a chamber that better supports the cartridge in order to prevent case failure. This is information that can be found in Cartridges of The World and various other places throughout the Universe.
 
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I would look at getting a DPM recoil reducer kit. It seems to help a lot with my 460 Rowland. The Rowland is even more powerful than the Super, but the 460R kit comes with a compensated barrel. You will probably want to get stronger springs for your magazines also from either Rowland or AGP.

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Thank you for that link to DPM springs. I'm getting one next month. Am considering the Rowland conversion also for my four inch xd. I think the super ammunition is a good choice for my situation in NW Wyoming. Our bears are not as large as yours but close. Light compact eleven round pistol makes more sense than the heavy single actions I've carried along with a rifle. I'd like to hear more of your adventures with the Rowland conversion.
 

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Thank you for that link to DPM springs. I'm getting one next month. Am considering the Rowland conversion also for my four inch xd. I think the super ammunition is a good choice for my situation in NW Wyoming. Our bears are not as large as yours but close. Light compact eleven round pistol makes more sense than the heavy single actions I've carried along with a rifle. I'd like to hear more of your adventures with the Rowland conversion.
Might not be until spring now, a little too cold for my taste outside. Plus I don't want to loose any 460 brass, the stuff is kind of expensive. I don't get out to Wasilla to the indoor range too often.
 

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You can shoot .45 super out of your XD and be okay. There was a guy who was blasting .45 super from his XDs when they first came out. If you search like the other poster said you'll find it.

I honestly would not recommend it though.
 

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Excellent answers everybody and thank you. Bears and big Kitties out here in SW OR USA. Wondering if my XD was set up properly to occasionally or rarely use 45 Super, could I still use just ordinary hardball or full ordinary power 45 ammo for practice? Or ... would I have to fool around converting stuff back first? I dunno. HB of CJ (old coot)
 

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Friday it's supposed to be above zero and sunny. Will try to chronograph some loads and see what I'm getting. I understand about brass and losing it in the snow. I'll try and remember a tarp for easy recovery.
 

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45 super is my carry load in winter. I have an xd 4 inch model that I converted to 460 rowland. It has a compensator and extra power mag springs I ordered from AGP arms. It runs 45 super, +P, and even normal 45 like a dream. I occasionally get stovepipes on low powered 45 target ammo but thats it. I also set up my 1911s to run 45 super. All it took was a heavier spring (18lb I think) and a Wilson recoil pad. I would guess that you could add a recoil pad to the Xd and be good to go since it comes with a 20lb spring. Not sure though... let us know which route you go.
 

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Got some shooting before the wind came up. A 250 grain lfn at 1004 ave with an standard deviation of 8 makes me happy. 8.5 grains of longshot, Winchester primer and mixed cases. No case bulge as xd has a supported chamber. Ejection pattern was good. Don't try this load, it's dangerous according to the internet experts
 

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Went to the indoor range yesterday. Put some 255gr Buffalo Bore 460R, 230gr Blazer alum cased and some 460R handloads using the 200gr XTP. Had no issues whatsoever. The 255gr BB, mfr rated 1300fps, were some real hammers, even with the comp and DPM Recoil Reducer I have installed.
 
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