Just wondering, I just got an XD .45 4", it has 13 round magazines. I was just looking on Impact Guns and the have the same gun in .40 S&W but it only has 12 round magazines. Does anyone have any idea why it would hold less then the .45?
yup.Just wondering, I just got an XD .45 4", it has 13 round magazines. I was just looking on Impact Guns and the have the same gun in .40 S&W but it only has 12 round magazines. Does anyone have any idea why it would hold less then the .45?
The way I understand it (YMMV) is that the .40's mag tube is the same as the 9mm mag tube. Same size, bigger cartridge --> holds fewer.Just wondering, I just got an XD .45 4", it has 13 round magazines. I was just looking on Impact Guns and the have the same gun in .40 S&W but it only has 12 round magazines. Does anyone have any idea why it would hold less then the .45?
No.yup.
The .40 was an earlier model that was released during the AWB, so a higher capacity wasn't really a necessary feature at that time.
The .45 came later and is on a different frame. HS wanted a .45 with a competitive capacity.
What are you disagreeing with?No.
During the ban only 10 round mags were legal to produce.
9mm and 40 mags are the same size so the 40 holds less, the 45 is a larger mag, holds more.
don
Non-sense, the rest of the world doesn't give a flying F about an American mag ban.No.
During the ban only 10 round mags were legal to produce.
9mm and 40 mags are the same size so the 40 holds less, the 45 is a larger mag, holds more.
don
As far as i know we aren't talking about the rest of the world!Non-sense, the rest of the world doesn't give a flying F about an American mag ban.
As stated earlier the 40 and 9mm are on the same frame and use almost identical mags, you can even swap them sometimes with no tinkering.
I guess you didn't read the quote: "The .40 was an earlier model that was released during the AWB, so a higher capacity wasn't really a necessary feature at that time."What are you disagreeing with?
Well we are because it's "the rest of the world" which produced the gun and the mags, not the importer SA. The fact that the XD-40 held twelve rounds had nothing to do with a ten round ban in the US. It was never illegal to produce a mag with more then ten rounds, just illegal for evil American civies in certain states to own one.As far as i know we aren't talking about the rest of the world!
don
I wrote what you quoted. Other than the "no" I'm not sure where we disagree.I guess you didn't read the quote: "The .40 was an earlier model that was released during the AWB, so a higher capacity wasn't really a necessary feature at that time."
don
I think it had something to do with it, because HS seemed pretty excited to release the 13 round XD45, the 19 round XDM9, and the 16 round xdm40 after the awb expired.Well we are because it's "the rest of the world" which produced the gun and the mags, not the importer SA. The fact that the XD-40 held twelve rounds had nothing to do with a ten round ban in the US.
If by "produce" you mean manufacture or import into the United States, you're wrong. Brady banned manufacture and import of magazines greater than 10 rounds. If you mean internationally, I don't get your point.It was never illegal to produce a mag with more then ten rounds, just illegal for evil American civies in certain states to own one.
Not:Brady banned manufacture and import of magazines greater than 10 rounds. If you mean internationally, I don't get your point.
LolH.R.3355
Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 (Enrolled Bill [Final as Passed Both House and Senate] - ENR)
SEC. 110103. BAN OF LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICES.
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yeah not brady. Still banned manufacture of standard capacity magazines for civilian use. Brady was another section that went into effect about the same time and technically only refers to the handgun portion.Lol
#1: NOT the Brady Bill is it?
You know that isn't true.#2: The XD/HS-2000 was designed in 1991, used the same frame for the 9mm, 40S&W, 357Sig and 45GAP, the 40, 357 and GAP had lower capacity due to larger cartridges not because of some pending or current U.S. legislation. The Croats use it for thier police and military and couldn't give a rat'z azs about US laws at the time.
Who expressed surprise?#3: If you're surprised at adverts crowing about capacity of a particular handgun you're not paying any attention to marketing strategies.
Toodles lol
Not a different section, a different Bill.yeah not brady. Still banned manufacture of standard capacity magazines for civilian use. Brady was another section that went into effect about the same time and technically only refers to the handgun portion. You know that isn't true.
Who expressed surprise?
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Not to go too far off topic, but can someone PLEASE explain to me why guns like the XDs .45 and 1911s are not legal in states like California? I thought it was about round count? Like more than 10? And that was why the XDm wasn't legal? I'm confused!No.
During the ban only 10 round mags were legal to produce.
9mm and 40 mags are the same size so the 40 holds less, the 45 is a larger mag, holds more.
don
Yup and they seem to take thier sweet ole time approving anything.I think in those cases gun models have to be specifically approved