My subcompact .45 used to do the same thing with the 13 round mag... it did eventually smooth out. If I recall correctly... some others here have made similar observation(s).
xd 45 Mod 2 full magazine issues
Hello fellow xd mod 2 owners!
Quick couple of disclaimers:
1. I have owned a Service xd 9mm for years and never had issues at all. Still works like a charm.
2. I tried to search on the topic but I did not find anything.
Here it is. . .
I got a bi-tone xd 45 Mod 2 for Christmas last year. I was very excited to find one because I had been looking for the specific model for a while. Some time after the purchase I went to the range to break it in a little and to just enjoy a nice shooting session. From the get-go I realized that there is something not quite right with the magazine lock/release when it is completely full (13 rds). It requires a major slam to lock in, and it requires shift in my grip to apply enough pressure to the magazine release button to allow it to drop, and even then I need to help with the off hand to push the mag in/up to help the release. Then there is the issue of chambering the first round with the mag is full. It requires a lot of strength and I feel like I am damaging the casing on the top round when racking the slide. Once the top round is gone things bet much better, but are still not as smooth.
Initially I thought that some oil on the mag release would help, which it did a little (very little). Then I thought a couple of hundred rounds would do the trick. . . Still no luck. I tried other mags, and it still works the same. I am now wondering if I need to contact warranty and have t serviced.
My xd 9 has ran butter-smooth since day 1, and never had a single issue at all, even when I hadn't cleaned it for a long time.
What do you guys think? Should I go for a warranty service?
Quick couple of disclaimers:
1. I have owned a Service xd 9mm for years and never had issues at all. Still works like a charm.
2. I tried to search on the topic but I did not find anything.
Here it is. . .
I got a bi-tone xd 45 Mod 2 for Christmas last year. I was very excited to find one because I had been looking for the specific model for a while. Some time after the purchase I went to the range to break it in a little and to just enjoy a nice shooting session. From the get-go I realized that there is something not quite right with the magazine lock/release when it is completely full (13 rds). It requires a major slam to lock in, and it requires shift in my grip to apply enough pressure to the magazine release button to allow it to drop, and even then I need to help with the off hand to push the mag in/up to help the release. Then there is the issue of chambering the first round with the mag is full. It requires a lot of strength and I feel like I am damaging the casing on the top round when racking the slide. Once the top round is gone things bet much better, but are still not as smooth.
Initially I thought that some oil on the mag release would help, which it did a little (very little). Then I thought a couple of hundred rounds would do the trick. . . Still no luck. I tried other mags, and it still works the same. I am now wondering if I need to contact warranty and have t serviced.
My xd 9 has ran butter-smooth since day 1, and never had a single issue at all, even when I hadn't cleaned it for a long time.
What do you guys think? Should I go for a warranty service?
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Pretty much the same issue here. Loading the mags is rather tough as well. I bought some Up Lula(?) loaders because of this gun. I load a single round by hand into the gun then put the mag. in. What I've found is that I have to really bang it in to get it to catch. If I wanna unload the fully loaded gun, I bang on the bottom of the mag. as I push on the mag. release. The other thing that bothers me about my gun is that when fully loaded, the mag. release rattles.
Not unusual for a lot of pistols. My xd mod2 45 sc was that way for awhile until it broke in so that it's easier now. Had the same issue with the Sig p365 I bought last summer, and I'm going through it now with a new cz rami.
I’m guessing this is the case with all of them. Certainly is with mine. It’s a little easier after 1000 plus rounds but still tighter than all my other pistols. The mags all load easy enough but you gotta bump em pretty good to lock them into the gun and the release is hard to push.
Thanks for the responses! So what you guys are saying is to fire a few more rounds and hope it gets better, before I consider a warranty repair?
We have a couple of the first gen. 5" Tacticals in .45 acp. They do the same thing with a 13 round magazine locked in. Takes two fingers to push the mag. release button in - but, who is going to be dropping a full magazine?
An uplula is just about the only way to get the last couple of rounds into the magazine. Same for the P14 in .45 acp or my CZ75 in .40 S&W with the 14 round magazines.
One more thing. This works. Done it on a bunch of my blued CZ magazines and one the stainless XD .45 magazines.
Unload a couple (for your test/trial). Disassemble them. Degrease them (I went over mine a couple times with a combination of lint free cloths, cotton balls and rubbing alcohol. Let them dry a few minutes. Put a coat of car wax (paste wax is good, I used liquid because that's what I had close to the table right then) on them inside and outside. Let it dry to a haze and buff it off with another clean lint free cloth. Let them set a few minutes and put a second coat of wax on them, let it dry, buff it off and then reassemble them.
Load them up, you can feel it's a bit easier to load. And, the wax will not attract/hold dust/dirt like oil/grease. When I come in the house now, with a sweaty/wet magazine I just wipe it off with a paper towel and it shines like I just wiped it with an oily cloth.
I even, just for the heck of it, field stripped the big XD and waxed that stainless slide on the outside with that same car wax. That was last year in the fall. Carried it all winter (still carrying it some) in a drop leg holster out in the rain, a little bit of snow/sleet and it's still pretty. Might put some more wax on it later this summer.
An uplula is just about the only way to get the last couple of rounds into the magazine. Same for the P14 in .45 acp or my CZ75 in .40 S&W with the 14 round magazines.
One more thing. This works. Done it on a bunch of my blued CZ magazines and one the stainless XD .45 magazines.
Unload a couple (for your test/trial). Disassemble them. Degrease them (I went over mine a couple times with a combination of lint free cloths, cotton balls and rubbing alcohol. Let them dry a few minutes. Put a coat of car wax (paste wax is good, I used liquid because that's what I had close to the table right then) on them inside and outside. Let it dry to a haze and buff it off with another clean lint free cloth. Let them set a few minutes and put a second coat of wax on them, let it dry, buff it off and then reassemble them.
Load them up, you can feel it's a bit easier to load. And, the wax will not attract/hold dust/dirt like oil/grease. When I come in the house now, with a sweaty/wet magazine I just wipe it off with a paper towel and it shines like I just wiped it with an oily cloth.
I even, just for the heck of it, field stripped the big XD and waxed that stainless slide on the outside with that same car wax. That was last year in the fall. Carried it all winter (still carrying it some) in a drop leg holster out in the rain, a little bit of snow/sleet and it's still pretty. Might put some more wax on it later this summer.
Hello fellow xd mod 2 owners!
Quick couple of disclaimers:
1. I have owned a Service xd 9mm for years and never had issues at all. Still works like a charm.
2. I tried to search on the topic but I did not find anything.
Here it is. . .
I got a bi-tone xd 45 Mod 2 for Christmas last year. I was very excited to find one because I had been looking for the specific model for a while. Some time after the purchase I went to the range to break it in a little and to just enjoy a nice shooting session. From the get-go I realized that there is something not quite right with the magazine lock/release when it is completely full (13 rds). It requires a major slam to lock in, and it requires shift in my grip to apply enough pressure to the magazine release button to allow it to drop, and even then I need to help with the off hand to push the mag in/up to help the release. Then there is the issue of chambering the first round with the mag is full. It requires a lot of strength and I feel like I am damaging the casing on the top round when racking the slide. Once the top round is gone things bet much better, but are still not as smooth.
Initially I thought that some oil on the mag release would help, which it did a little (very little). Then I thought a couple of hundred rounds would do the trick. . . Still no luck. I tried other mags, and it still works the same. I am now wondering if I need to contact warranty and have t serviced.
My xd 9 has ran butter-smooth since day 1, and never had a single issue at all, even when I hadn't cleaned it for a long time.
What do you guys think? Should I go for a warranty service?
I called the manufacturer today because I am having the same problem with the one I bought a couple of weeks ago, this is with the 9 or 13 round magazine if it is full. They told me to just slam the magazine in there and they have never seen any damage caused from doing this. The force required has to do with the spring tension in the magazine when fully loaded.
Kinda sucks to me
I have no problem with slamming the magazine in there. . .
My issue is that it is hard to rack the slide for the first round if it isn't already opened, and also it is EXTREMELY hard to release the magazine out.
I'm kinda disappointed with Springfield about this. Love the gun, shoots very well and accurate, but this is honestly unacceptable for a defense pistol.
My issue is that it is hard to rack the slide for the first round if it isn't already opened, and also it is EXTREMELY hard to release the magazine out.
I'm kinda disappointed with Springfield about this. Love the gun, shoots very well and accurate, but this is honestly unacceptable for a defense pistol.
It is a little harder to eject the full mag for me but manageable and the slide racks fine for me.
I did however put 300 rounds or so through the gun and clean it before I noticed the issue. That could be the difference.
It was disappointing after cleaning it and attempting to fully load the gun to realize that it has an issue. That’s when I found this forum.
I would like to say that when I called the manufacturer they were very helpful and there wasn’t a hold time.
I did however put 300 rounds or so through the gun and clean it before I noticed the issue. That could be the difference.
It was disappointing after cleaning it and attempting to fully load the gun to realize that it has an issue. That’s when I found this forum.
I would like to say that when I called the manufacturer they were very helpful and there wasn’t a hold time.
Just got a XD mod 2 in 45. Same issue. Fully loaded was very difficult to insert and release magazine with slide forward. With slide locked back not difficult. Also check your top bullet to see if the ejector is hitting it and putting dents in the brass rim. Its minor but it's there. I'm thinking that the top loaded bullet is hitting the ejector and causing resistance. the magazine release assembly is different than other pistols as well. The magazine locks in the middle not the side like others and the catch mechanism is different. there seems to be alot of pressure on the magazine requiring more force to operate. I dont know if it's a design flaw or a tolerance issue. Also if you have installed talon grips you know that you need to heat it up with a hair dryer and when it was warm the magazine operated much easier. and when cold it was more difficult again. Like I said maybe a tolerance issue in the plastic frame or the ejector.
It's not a design flaw. And it's not unusual or limited to XDs for the last round in a high capacity magazine to put a lot of pressure on the extractor and the mag release. People report the same problem with Shields and other pistols. If it is problematic for you, simply load the magazine with 12 instead of 13 and the problem disappears. You're still carrying 13 so I wouldn't sweat it.
99% of the magazines that I use which people report having issues getting fully loaded I do NOT have an issue with. Yeah the last round is a little tough, but it goes in. Uplula makes a mag loader that people really seem to like.
99% of the magazines that I use which people report having issues getting fully loaded I do NOT have an issue with. Yeah the last round is a little tough, but it goes in. Uplula makes a mag loader that people really seem to like.
It's not loading the bullets in the magazine that's the problem it's the insertion and ejection of the magazine. For it to operate correctly I have to take out 2 or 3 from the magazine. I have one mag thats a 9 round capacity that's what I would carry (it sits flush) not the 13 extended mag (printing issues) so a 9 round mag becomes a 6 or 7. If Springfield designs a firearm to have 9 or 13 then it should work with that amount. Even an empty mag with the slide forward is harder than it should be to eject compared to other firearms.
So help me get this...
I made clear, cleaned maintenanced whatever the reason im administratively reloading my pistol....
I lock slide to rear, load fresh mag. Release slide to chamber a round, holster....
Or, if yer sweating that extra capacity, remove the mag again, add that extra round, anf smoothly force the digficult mag back in extra ensuring its seated, that one time. Then holster.
No need to unholster until you shoot or clean..
During shooting last round holdopen eliminates all that during shooting.
Whats the issue?
I made clear, cleaned maintenanced whatever the reason im administratively reloading my pistol....
I lock slide to rear, load fresh mag. Release slide to chamber a round, holster....
Or, if yer sweating that extra capacity, remove the mag again, add that extra round, anf smoothly force the digficult mag back in extra ensuring its seated, that one time. Then holster.
No need to unholster until you shoot or clean..
During shooting last round holdopen eliminates all that during shooting.
Whats the issue?
It's not loading the bullets in the magazine that's the problem it's the insertion and ejection of the magazine. For it to operate correctly I have to take out 2 or 3 from the magazine. I have one mag thats a 9 round capacity that's what I would carry (it sits flush) not the 13 extended mag (printing issues) so a 9 round mag becomes a 6 or 7. If Springfield designs a firearm to have 9 or 13 then it should work with that amount. Even an empty mag with the slide forward is harder than it should be to eject compared to other firearms.
I mentioned loading the magazine because someone brought it up in this thread and I didn't want to get into responding with multiple quotes.
As to your problem, like I said, people report the same issue with M&P Shields, which are 7 round mags. Personally ( and I just checked) with my XD Mod 2 4" .45, which has 13 rd. mags, it is tight getting it to lock in only when there are 13 rds. in the mag. If I reduce it to 12, it goes in no problem and the mag release button gets a lot easier. One finger easier. If you're having to download by 3 rds. I don't really have any usable advice for you because that has never been the case with mine.
This is the price you pay to get maximum capacity in the smallest package. I have several compact Springfield 45's, 40's, and 9's as well as compact designs from other manufacturers. They all to some degree are tough to load the mags to max capacity and to seat into the gun with the slide forward. The Springfields perhaps a little more so than the others but still tolerable. As mentioned above, I load the mag down one round in most cases. When I go to the range I load to max and shoot. Over time the mags load and seat a little easier.
I have mag extensions on my shield 7 rd mags (3 of them) carry it every day with 9 rds 8+1 and the spare of 8.I mentioned loading the magazine because someone brought it up in this thread and I didn't want to get into responding with multiple quotes.
As to your problem, like I said, people report the same issue with M&P Shields, which are 7 round mags. Personally ( and I just checked) with my XD Mod 2 4" .45, which has 13 rd. mags, it is tight getting it to lock in only when there are 13 rds. in the mag. If I reduce it to 12, it goes in no problem and the mag release button gets a lot easier. One finger easier. If you're having to download by 3 rds. I don't really have any usable advice for you because that has never been the case with mine.
No issues what so ever with ability to load all 8 with or without UpLuLa.
Ot any type of malfunctions with feed and or extraction and have fired several hundred rounds with the extensions.
No issue with slide lock or release as I do not use the slide lock as a release as it is NOT intended as such. I use the push method and slingshot it forward.
Locks open with full empty or no mag as it should in each configuration every time.
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I have mag extensions on my shield 7 rd mags (3 of them) carry it every day with 9 rds 8+1 and the spare of 8.
No issues what so ever with ability to load all 8 with or without UpLuLa.
Ot any type of malfunctions with feed and or extraction and have fired several hundred rounds with the extensions.
No issue with slide lock or release as I do not use the slide lock as a release as it is NOT intended as such. I use the push method and slingshot it forward.
Locks open with full empty or no mag as it should in each configuration every time.
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I exclusively use extra capacity mags in both my Shields too. Same as you, no issues whatsoever. People do report those problems with them though. Personally I think there is a plethora of people out there with girly thumbs.
My 45 Mod 2's perform the same way. I've only got a couple hundred rounds through the guns (3.3" and 4") and am hoping they will loosen up as I get closed to the 1000 round mark. I'm not particularly worried about it because I rarely drop full mags and the guns have both performed flawlessly at the range.
Just an update here, I sent it back to Springfield and about 3 to 4 weeks later it came back. They fixed the magazine release works great now, no issues.
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