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Greetings all:

I have researched the XD, was debating getting the Glock or Sig (pro's and cons etc...) I used price and reliability as weighted factors and voila ....XD .40, getting the ported version I figured to cut down a bit on the kick. I should have it in my hands by next week. That V-10 package I understand is getting harder and harder to get

I am beginning to feel like the consensus is that most consider the .40 ported as a target weapon not something that one would also have as a CCW. Anybody use their .40 ported in all instances or am I just getting paranoid?

I welcome any comments, thoughts or criticisms.
 

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Overkill would be the expert on this one. I am sure he will chime in. I would say NO to it as a CCW. Personally, I would have suggested you actually fire one if you haven't before you buy. The flash and concussion of the muzzle is pretty fierce. I would have gone with the regular .40 and a Don's set-up or a smaller caliber is recoil is a problem.

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From my book:

Ported/Compensated Barrels
A ported barrel or an add-on compensator has holes in the top to direct exhaust gas upwards in an effort to reduce recoil. While they do work for that purpose, ported or compensated guns are not a good option for self-defense. The problem with them is that the gas that escapes upwards is burning. Known as muzzle flash, the bright light directed upward will reduce your night vision capability. Statistically, most gunfights happen in reduced light, and this is not a good time to have a bright flame temporarily blind you. Additionally, since many gunfights are at very close distances, you might need to fire your gun while it is close to your body, in order to keep the gun from being snatched by your assailant. In this case, a ported/compensated barrel will cause extensive burning as the muzzle flash projects upwards.
 

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You can always get the XD-40 V10, than get an non-ported barrel if you choose to carry it. Several guys on the forum have done this, and it works well.

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You can always get the XD-40 V10, than get an non-ported barrel if you choose to carry it. Several guys on the forum have done this, and it works well.

Old School
You make a valid point that I was just thinking about, probably a cheaper solution than to get a 3" .40. I will investigate what a non ported barrel would run me.
 

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Overkill would be the expert on this one. I am sure he will chime in. I would say NO to it as a CCW. Personally, I would have suggested you actually fire one if you haven't before you buy. The flash and concussion of the muzzle is pretty fierce. I would have gone with the regular .40 and a Don's set-up or a smaller caliber is recoil is a problem.

Just my .02 :D
I have had a few conversations with dealers and for some reason there are conflicting points of view on this. Some say that the porting brings the kick to the 9mm, others that say the .40 is not so bad. I do know that because of the frame if you don't have the practice it will beat up your wrist. Thanks for your insight.
 

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It has been my experience that the stock .40 V-10 kicks half as much, if not less than the stock 9mm.
 

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It has been my experience that the stock .40 V-10 kicks half as much, if not less than the stock 9mm.
Do you use this as a range pistol only or do you have it with you in circulation on occasion?
 

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Do you use this as a range pistol only or do you have it with you in circulation on occasion?
If your asking if I carry it, the answer is yes. I have shot it at night and it does not hinder any night vision to me. I also realise that i may get burned from shooting close to the body, but i will take that risk because of how nice this gun shoots. A little burn is better than being dead.
 

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nogoa said:
TRYZUB said:
Do you use this as a range pistol only or do you have it with you in circulation on occasion?
If your asking if I carry it, the answer is yes. I have shot it at night and it does not hinder any night vision to me. I also realise that i may get burned from shooting close to the body, but i will take that risk because of how nice this gun shoots. A little burn is better than being dead.[/quote

Thanks for clearing that up; the impressions I was given were that the ported XD .40 was not a practical pistol to carry on the street. My personal feeling is that having the ability to maintain a shot pattern on target (or person) consistently is what is important; shooting from the hip looks nice but is irrelevant. There just seemed to be an disconnect on what the advantages of a ported barrel gives you in terms of accuracy and putting round after round on target versus "losing night vision".
 

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I have the V 10 9mm, and love it. I have no loss of vision shooting at my range, which is a little dark.

My wife shot it at the same range (twice, silhouette target, once in the groin) the flames scared her (her aim scared me).

My five year old daughter loves the flames from the porting.

Me, I don't even see the flames with each shot, because I am looking between them, and not looking for them.

just my .02 worth. :)
 

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TRYZUB said:
Old School said:
You can always get the XD-40 V10, than get an non-ported barrel if you choose to carry it. Several guys on the forum have done this, and it works well.

Old School
You make a valid point that I was just thinking about, probably a cheaper solution than to get a 3" .40. I will investigate what a non ported barrel would run me.
If you purchase from a .40 barrel from us, it will run you $154. Your can also install a 9mm conversion barrel ($149), if you want to run with ammo that is a little cheaper. Both should be in stock towards the end of March.

http://www.pistol-gear.com/proddetail.php?prod=02PA

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I have already to my story of my nylon jacket and a ported Glock .40. Smells funny... Be VERY careful when shooting form the hip!!!
 

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TRYZUB said:
Old School said:
You can always get the XD-40 V10, than get an non-ported barrel if you choose to carry it. Several guys on the forum have done this, and it works well.

Old School
You make a valid point that I was just thinking about, probably a cheaper solution than to get a 3" .40. I will investigate what a non ported barrel would run me.
If you purchase from a .40 barrel from us, it will run you $154. Your can also install a 9mm conversion barrel ($149), if you want to run with ammo that is a little cheaper. Both should be in stock towards the end of March.

http://www.pistol-gear.com/proddetail.php?prod=02PA

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Terrific, I will place my order at the end of the month so that I have both bases covered. Thank you all again for your input.
 

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Having a tac 9 and a ported 40, I think I can speak to this one w/ some intelligence for a change. :)

The ported 40 still kicks like a 40, but the muzzle flip is reduced significantly. It has about as much muzzle flip as my tac 9 does, but the tac is much softer recoil due to the longer travel of the slide to disipate the energy of the blowback, as well as the increased mass of the slide being both longer and not scalloped out to provide gas vents for the ports. That said, when I got done shooting mine tues night in competition, there were a couple other xd owners who had grins on their faces after watching the crown of fire erupt from that little xd.
 

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Having a tac 9 and a ported 40, I think I can speak to this one w/ some intelligence for a change. :)

The ported 40 still kicks like a 40, but the muzzle flip is reduced significantly. It has about as much muzzle flip as my tac 9 does, but the tac is much softer recoil due to the longer travel of the slide to disipate the energy of the blowback, as well as the increased mass of the slide being both longer and not scalloped out to provide gas vents for the ports. That said, when I got done shooting mine tues night in competition, there were a couple other xd owners who had grins on their faces after watching the crown of fire erupt from that little xd.
I appreciate the personal account, I though it was important to get a tactical as well as a competition perspective on the difference between ported and non-ported after all why would they offer ported barrels in the first place. I will give you all feedback after my first visit to the local range.

JDW
 
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