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Im curious if anyone here owns a pps and what you might think of it compared to the xds or even the sheild. I'm looking at the pps in .40 vs the xds in .45 I know different caliber but curious on people thought on each one.
 

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I don't have either. I like both. I wanted something smaller so that is what I got. What I would say is that I would not want a 40 in anything smaller than a compact. I have a P2000 sk... HKs only subcompact.... which by everyone else's standards is a compact. It's in 40. And that's about as small as I would go. And that is soft shooting for a 40 by many.

And I don't have a problem with 40. But when you get to true subcompacts.... PPS, XDs, Shield, Kahr PM/CM... I personally don't see the point of less capacity with more recoil in a tiny gun with a short barrel. 9mm is very acceptable and gives great performance for a mini pistol. Seriously, the choices we have today in 9mm "pocket" pistols is truly awesome. No more need for a PPK .380

I know all that is personal preference and you didn't ask. I like 45 (favorite) and 40... but now that I have 9... ya, I get it. Plenty don't care. And plenty like XDs in 45. When they announced the XDs in 45, it was a "must have" for me.... then I came to my senses. YMMV :)
 

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I had a xds in 9mm but traded it with a core upper for a colt ar. but i did not enjoy the trigger on that at all.
 

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Nice. I personally looked at Shields, just because I'm a lefty.... but a lot don't like that trigger either. I liked the PPS. I decided on a Kahr CM9 for the size. But then found the Sig 290rs. Lot to like, but the trigger might not be for everyone. If you don't want a "pocket" Kahr, then there is the next size up which is still a nice concealable single stack. In 40 too. :)
 

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The only reason I do not want to go 9mm is because I have a xd SC in 9mm so I figured I'd do a .40 I have a xdm .45 3.8
 

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I have owned both the PPS.40 and XDS.45. The PPS hits harder in the hand compared to the XDS. Sold the XDS for the G30s. Though I never had a firing issue in over 2k rounds with the XDS, I never could get passed the fact that the slide would not fully RTB on a press check with one in the chamber. I still have the PPS. It's a great pistol, but snappy. They are almost exactly same size too. There is a certain cool factor about owning a Walther I must say.
 

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I have an XDs in 9 and it's been my most used carry gun for years. Its been everything I could want in a carry gun.
 
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I know this post is useless, but a friend brought over a PPS and I absolutely could not hit the target with it. I am 100% certain it was me because he had no problem, but I could not shoot the dang thing at all. Weird.
 
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I own neither, until after Jan. 2015. Waiting to see what the evil G Empire brings us at Shot Show for a 9mm single stack. Side by side I'd choose the PPS, but be ready to learn the funky mag. release. Don't think you can go wrong with either.
 
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My holsters worked for both pistols too. Not an exact fit, but acceptable enough to use.
 

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Both are nice pistols. I like the trigger on the PPS better. Keep in mind the PPS has the paddle mag release. Some like it, some don't.
 

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I'd go Walther specifically for the mag release. But I like the P99 compact a little more. Very similar in size, maybe a third of an inch thicker but much easier to shoot and you can carry the larger P99 mags as a backup.
 

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Went to range and rented XDs, PPS and Shield. Put 50 rounds same ammo through all 3. For me, the Shield shot the best groups. I wanted to like the XDs as have XDm. I wanted the PPS as frustrated CCP potential buyer. Purchased Shield for shooting results and $351 out the door Thanksgiving Bass Pro deal hard to beat. Put 180 rounds through on Tueday. No doubt made right decision. Still very much like and respect other 2. Shield just better for me.


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Went to range and rented XDs, PPS and Shield. Put 50 rounds same ammo through all 3. For me, the Shield shot the best groups. I wanted to like the XDs as have XDm. I wanted the PPS as frustrated CCP potential buyer. Purchased Shield for shooting results and $351 out the door Thanksgiving Bass Pro deal hard to beat. Put 180 rounds through on Tueday. No doubt made right decision. Still very much like and respect other 2. Shield just better for me.


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That's the right approach, all are good guns you need to decide which one works best for you. I've had 1 XDs and 2 Shields and I like the XDs better. NOTHING wrong with the Shield, just personal preference.
 

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I know this post is useless, but a friend brought over a PPS and I absolutely could not hit the target with it. I am 100% certain it was me because he had no problem, but I could not shoot the dang thing at all. Weird.
I owned a PPS in 9mm and had the same problem. I thought, jeez, bought this for concealed carry and could hit a barn door center mass two feet in front of me. It took practice and I finally got it down but damn, not good at first.
 

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I owned a PPS in 9mm and had the same problem. I thought, jeez, bought this for concealed carry and could hit a barn door center mass two feet in front of me. It took practice and I finally got it down but damn, not good at first.
I am glad to hear it wasn't just me.
 

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I've been carrying a PPS 9mm for a year and a half now and I really love it! Has a great trigger, is very slim and trim, and fits me perfectly. It's also highly reliable, even with steel case Tula FMJ, unlike a lot of subcompact guns I've tried. Many of them don't like the steel stuff but the PPS eats them up! I've had one double feed with it, but it's never with brass. given the lower cost of steel I like that and I can live with it. I carry mine IWB in a Crossbreed Supertuck and it just disappears and is VERY comfy. I found the grip length to be perfect for me too. With the 7 round mag in it, the PPS has just enough length for me to get all 3 fingers on the pistol, which I liked over the XDS. I didn't go the Shield route because I'm a lefty and at the time the only Shields available were the safety-equipped ones.

As for the paddle mag release, I didn't have any issues adapting to it. A lot of people make a big deal out of it and act like they can't adapt to it, but with a little bit of dry practice it becomes second nature. My thumbs are too short for me to easily reach the release, but I use my index finger and it works really well.

Overall I really love the PPS and I'd highly recommend it. For all the reasons I've said, plus the quality that Walther is known for!


I know this post is useless, but a friend brought over a PPS and I absolutely could not hit the target with it. I am 100% certain it was me because he had no problem, but I could not shoot the dang thing at all. Weird.
I owned a PPS in 9mm and had the same problem. I thought, jeez, bought this for concealed carry and could hit a barn door center mass two feet in front of me. It took practice and I finally got it down but damn, not good at first.
I too had a few issues with shooting effective groups with my PPS when I first got it. I determined that part of the issue for me was that the sights have too much "air" between the front blade and rear notch. It was too wide and not very precise for me. I resolved this by installing Meprolight 3-Dot night sights on it that have a more precise picture and less gap between front and rear sights. With that mod I find the gun very easy to shoot well, as long as I do my part in marksmanship fundamentals it does it. It is a very accurate guns once you learn the trigger and practice good habits. Like any small gun, they can be tough to shoot but with proper fundamentals I feel very confident with it.
 

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passed on the PPS back when , the grip seemed too narrow and long. The mag release was foreign ( as in weird) too . Seems the trigger is ok ( cant remember) but not having shot that in a 40 i imagine its not comfortable putting a few boxes threw it. i would defiantly run that in a 9mm but i think the price was overboard too. Having used other walthers i would get it on that quality alone - they make good stuff.

so i got the XDS eventually , no complaints other than the post recall trigger. It's just not what it was but still shoots well. Just as reliable as any quality gun in my experience . zero failures to date of any kind . the price is much better now too and you have the 4.0 XDS to choose from ... IMO XDS is one of the best small 45s .

I think the value play is the shield for three something , US made . unfortunately never shot it but didnt like the grip . no idea about the trigger.

the key is always getting to shoot them first . they have shields and XDS at my range , IDK if they have PPSs but if your not adverse to recoil i think that would be my choice , XDS maybe with PRP kit ADDS another $50 bucks , shield without a saftey for $350 ( comes in 40 too : ) not a bad option ,


also as long as you can shoot it well comfort is a tertiary concern to me

Seems PPS has come down in price too - Walther PPS 9mm $533.00 SHIPS FREE - Buds Gun Shop ( not promoting Buds either way)

good luck let us know what you get and how it goes
 

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For me the paddle mag release is a instant pass. The sad part is the PPS is such a nice pistol to shoot otherwise.
 
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