Vacation to NC this summer - pointers for CCW'er from Missouri

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ksbsnowowl

Discussion Starter · Apr 29, 2011

Flying to North Carolina for a wedding this summer, in addition to a little sight-seeing. I've looked at handgunlaw.us, but are there any other items I should be aware of?

Here's the run-down as I understand it:

Places Off-Limits Even With A Permit/License
 Schools, public or private, all levels including universities. A curricular or extracurricular activity
sponsored by a school. This also applies to all property owned by any school. §14-269.2
 Assemblies and establishments where admission was charged. §14-269.3
 Assemblies and establishments where alcohol is both sold and consumed. §14-269.3
 State Capitol Building, the Executive Mansion, the Western Residence of the Governor, or on the
grounds of any of these buildings, and any building housing any court of the General Court of Justice.
§14-269.4
 State office buildings or any portion of a building in which there’re State offices. §14-415.11(c)
 Law Enforcement or Correctional Facilities. §14-415.11(c)
 Financial Institutions. §14-415.11(c)
 Events Occurring in Public: It shall be unlawful for any person participating in, affiliated with, or
present as a spectator at any parade, funeral procession, picket line, or demonstration upon any
private health care facility or upon any public place owned or under the control of the State or any of
its political subdivisions to willfully or intentionally possess or have immediate access to any
dangerous weapon. §14-277.2
 Areas of emergencies or riots. §14-288.7
 Where notice of carrying a concealed handgun is prohibited by the posting of a conspicuous notice or
statement. §14-415.11(c)

Also, it would be a bad idea to carry if a state of emergency is declared.
Watch for signs stating 'no guns' - misdemeanor to carry past them.

Are churches off-limits? Would the bolded portion above apply to a wedding/reception? I suppose a wedding reception would fall under where alcohol is sold and consumed... but if it's an open bar it isn't being "sold," per se... but probably a bad idea, even if I don't drink?

And a random question: Suppose I get to our hotel only to discover that the hotel itself is posted... what are my options at that point?

Also, reading handgunlaw.us, it seems that one cannot conceal a gun on your person when in a vehicle, even if you have a permit. The gun must always be in the open; is this correct?

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smokiesguy

· #2 · Apr 30, 2011

ksbsnowowl said:
Also, reading handgunlaw.us, it seems that one cannot conceal a gun on your person when in a vehicle, even if you have a permit. The gun must always be in the open; is this correct?

I usually Open Carry in NC, but often conceal as well in person, or in the car. Sometimes I don't have the gun on my person but in a safepacker on the seat next to me.

North Carolina Concealed Carry Permit Information
You MAY open carry in a motor vehicle. However, localities may regulate the carrying of firearms under certain circumstances.

NC Department of Crime Control and Public Safety

Handguns in Vehicles

It is unlawful to carry a concealed handgun in a vehicle unless the person has a North Carolina concealed carry permit. A person who is not a convicted felon may carry a handgun if not concealed. A handgun is concealed in a vehicle if it cannot be readily seen by a person approaching and if it is readily accessible. A handgun under the front seat or in an unlocked glove box or console is illegal. A handgun openly displayed or in a locked glove box, locked console, or in the trunk is lawful.

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ksbsnowowl

Discussion Starter · #3 · Apr 30, 2011

smokiesguy said:
It is unlawful to carry a concealed handgun in a vehicle unless the person has a North Carolina concealed carry permit. A person who is not a convicted felon may carry a handgun if not concealed. A handgun is concealed in a vehicle if it cannot be readily seen by a person approaching and if it is readily accessible. A handgun under the front seat or in an unlocked glove box or console is illegal. A handgun openly displayed or in a locked glove box, locked console, or in the trunk is lawful.

So myself, having a Missouri permit, could not conceal in a car?

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smokiesguy

· #4 · Apr 30, 2011

While I read it that way too, I don't believe that's so. I think it means a NC recognized conceal permit.

I will be asking federal LEOs who work in NC on Thursday when I am in training.

PS My CCW teacher in FL said anything with a latch or clasp is considered "locked". Obvoiusly that does not fly in all states.

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iCreek

· #5 · Apr 30, 2011

So you are going to 'check' your handgun, magazine, not sure where you should pack your ammo, in a TSA lock approved case? Just curious as I have never flown and brought a gun with me. People do it all the time I guess.

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konigfritz

· #6 · Apr 30, 2011

That pretty much covers it. They basically don't want you carrying where there are a bunch of people or on gov't property. The hotel, I wouldn't worry about. I used to conceal carry in my truck all the, not an issue. good luck.

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SpeedQuest

· #7 · Apr 30, 2011

ksbsnowowl said:
So myself, having a Missouri permit, could not conceal in a car?

That would depend on North Carolina's 'Reciprocity' with other states regarding CCW permits.

As a resident of Florida, my CCW is legal in NC and vice versa for NC permit holders. Although, while in NC, I am legally bound by the inherent and specific rules of their CCW permit, not just the rules of my FL CCW permit.

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smokiesguy

· #8 · May 1, 2011

SpeedQuest said:
That would depend on North Carolina's 'Reciprocity' with other states regarding CCW permits.

As a resident of Florida, my CCW is legal in NC and vice versa for NC permit holders. Although, while in NC, I am legally bound by the inherent and specific rules of their CCW permit, not just the rules of my FL CCW permit.

Great first post...Welcome!

I have a FL CCW and also have places in TN and NC as well so yes, I have to remember where I am as each state has different rules. You will also find some Indian reservations have even more restrictive rules too.

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ksbsnowowl

Discussion Starter · #9 · May 1, 2011

SpeedQuest said:
That would depend on North Carolina's 'Reciprocity' with other states regarding CCW permits.

NC recognizes my MO permit, but the law specifically says "North Carolina concealed carry permit."

See, in such instances of MO law, they state 'MO permit, or a permit from another state.' Thus my question.

So it sounds like I'm good to go, except at the wedding/party, where it would be prohibited.

And yes, I am planning to check the gun in a TSA-approved case, and fly it down there with me.

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SpeedQuest

· #10 · May 11, 2011

If your MO and NC recoprocity is 100%, then your MO CCW permit acts just like a NC permit within that state. You are governed by their version/rules of the CCW permit.

If you are overly concerned about it, obviously you always want to err on the side of no legal problems, but you could attempt to contact a lwayer within NC that specifically handles CCW cases to ask for an interpretation. Lots of lawyers will give you a pro bono consult if you approach them nicely believe it or not.

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