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I started reading Alas, Babylon and it got me thinking about what I would buy if I had imminent warning. What are the top 5 non-perishable (food) items you would go out and buy if you knew total disaster was coming?
 

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Without really thinking about it too much, canned condensed milk, MREs, water, multi-vitamins and rice.

Anything else I'd need I could either shoot or catch, but this would get me and my family though a few weeks if I had enough of it.

I have seriously started thinking about a storm shelter I could live in for the short term if a tornado ever hit Sioux Falls like the one that leveled Joplin.
 

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If you are talking just stuff I can rush to the store to buy and not order like Freeze dried food I would say:

1. canned veggies
2. vitamins
3. Can I lump salt, sugar, baking soda etc into one?
4. Lots-o-beef jerky
5. chocolate (comfort food)

I should say coffee because in Alas, Babylon it was worth it's weight in gold!
 

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I'm only halfway through, but it's good so far. It's making me really want to have a shopping list ready.

I was just thinking about coffee last night. What I found on Google made it seem like storing beans instead of ground up coffee would last longer. I'm still not sure how long it all would last.

If I could only go one place I'd probably go to the Walmart/Sams club complex. Hopefully, with them next to each other I'd be able to get as much as possible in the least amount of time. I'll leave food off my list because it's a given.

1. Ammo (Anything I can find...possibly trading for what I need later)
2. Batteries (I might buy a few car batteries as well)
3. Motor oil, antifreeze, and tran fluid
4. Toiletries (soap, shampoo, deodorant, shaving cream, razors, etc)
5. Computer paper

The last one might seem strange, and I'm sure as I think about the list more it will drop significantly. That being said it comes in bulk and could be used to start fires, letters or messages, and keep children busy with crayons.
 

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Rice, noodles, canned foods, a uv light to kill microorganisms in water, and seeds for sustainability after the dust settles.
 

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Does this assume we can use what we have already stored or are we starting out like with next to nothing like Randy from the book?

If we get to keep what we already have, I am pretty well prepared. I would pick up a few more gallons of fuel/ some extra propane tanks, I currently keep 8 gallons of white gas, 10 gallons of unleaded (I purchase from shops that still do not included Ethanol pure-gas.org FYI, but soon, that may be a thing of the past) plus 2 propane tanks, and 2 cases of the 1lb bottles and 4 empty 5 gallon jugs since I used to Race I have a metal storage cabinet for these. Even with an EMP, the coleman stoves will still work. Cooking stuff like pasta, rice or the like in thermos's really allows you to stretch the fuel usage ALOT. I would also probally added in some more Rice, currently have @180lbs but considering that will be the main ingredient for most meals it will go quickly. And yes I have practically lived off of rice in a few 3rd world countries. I would top off my vitamin stash, I keep enough plus 50% for each person to last atleast 1.5 years currently, since that seems to be the shelf life of multivitamins. I would also pick up jerky like noted earlier, I would stack it deep, but it would not be cheap. Looking at my food storage inventory, I have a good deal of shelf stabilized meats available. But more cant hurt. Then I would by a few more cases of the cans of Morning moo milk, plus some evaporated and condensed milk to enhance the flavor a bit. That makes 5 for me.

Rice, fuel, dairy, jerky, vitamins.

However you need to consider that I am pretty well prepared, its not only a Utah thing, but a thing that grew on me when I was a child since I have a child hood that makes most appear to go into shock when I start to describe it.

If I was started from scratch, I would say the same items as above as long as Randy had a coleman stove, or 4 like me.
 

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I already have food and water stocked. Sooo

1.) Ammo
2.) Fuel (like butane, propane etc)
3.) Vitamins / Protein powders.
4.) Jerky
5.) a bunch of smokes / dip hahahah
 

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Spoolup, I was asking on top of what you have already. I said 5, but people can list as many as they want. Great posts so far, thanks!
 

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Spices. sweets, dry-goods and canned stuff of all kinds.

I'd mainly load up on spices. they will be just gone after a while with no chance of replenishing.
 

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However you need to consider that I am pretty well prepared, its not only a Utah thing, but a thing that grew on me when I was a child since I have a child hood that makes most appear to go into shock when I start to describe it.

If I was started from scratch, I would say the same items as above as long as Randy had a coleman stove, or 4 like me.
From all your posts it's easy to tell you are a very prepared guy. Sorry about your childhood, I guess some good is coming from it though.

If I was just adding to what I have already...

The first: As much bottled water as I can buy at Costco or Sams. Heck, if I had to choose that may be the only thing buy. I'll fill my sinks, tubs, and pots up on the way out, but having fresh water to drink is invaluable. It will save my Berky filter and my back from having to haul it from some place.

Second: Batteries. I may do what the OP said and just go to Costco or Sams. They usually stock more of each item and going to one place amidst the confusion will be a plus.

Third: Gas station. Another commodity you can't have enough of. I wish my municipality would allow a gas tank buried in my yard.

Four: I like the idea of motor oil and antifreeze. Pep boys won't be open for supplies. Maybe even a spare set of tires if I have time.

Five: Sleeping bags, cots, pillows, and blankets. I have a feeling my bachelor pad will be filling up with friends and family. I want to plan for the extra guests.

I flew into Marathon Airport with my parents less than a day before Andrew hit in 92. When we took off from the North East it was heading one direction, when we landed it curled back. Come to think of it, I have no idea why US Air even flew us in. Anyway, we stopped at K-Mart before we evacuated and I'll never forget what I saw. The shelves were empty and people were fighting over the last few things left. Chaos doesn't even describe it.

That's how I got started in all this. People who aren't preparing are in deep deep trouble.
 

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Can foods (meats,soups, pasta w meat, vegetables, can coffee, tea, etc)
Dry foods (beans, rice, pasta)
Solar panel to charge batteries and rechargable batteries
gallons of bleach to purify water and sterilize wounds
Snare wire - you can feed a family with 10' of snare wire!
Outdoor clothes (wool preferably) and water proof outer wear
Largest thickest plastic bags available (makes rain wear, water carriers, shelters,etc)
Matches and boy scout type fire starting gear.
 

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If "total disaster" is coming, then I'm not wasting my time by going to the store for anything.

I'm grabbing the BOB, guns, and ammo, and getting out! If I find out later that I needed more salt and pepper, well life's a b!tch ...
 

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Spices. sweets, dry-goods and canned stuff of all kinds.

I'd mainly load up on spices. they will be just gone after a while with no chance of replenishing.

I never realized the value of spices before. I live in Cuba three months each year (job-related and legal) and spices are indeed rare. I have learned over the years to take what I need and extra for my Cuban friends. They really are nice people, btw.
 

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If "total disaster" is coming, then I'm not wasting my time by going to the store for anything.

I'm grabbing the BOB, guns, and ammo, and getting out! If I find out later that I needed more salt and pepper, well life's a b!tch ...
Well most of us don't have any where to "get out to" and the scenario in Alas, Babylon was that he was already in the best place possible.
 

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I thought it would be a good idea to have a carton of extra long cigarettes. If one match can light a cigarette maybe the cigarette will burn for 10 minutes helping to start a fire. But then again for the price of a carton you could probably buy all of the Bic lighters in Walmart.
 

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But then again for the price of a carton you could probably buy all of the Bic lighters in Walmart.

Exactly, I have a at least 10 bic lighters lying around and as part of my packs. They are super cheap, who needs a magnisium strip?
 

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Well most of us don't have any where to "get out to" and the scenario in Alas, Babylon was that he was already in the best place possible.
Yeah, sorry for the smart ass response, but really one of the reasons I'm trying to prepare before anything happens is to avoid going to the store when everyone else is panicking.

I'll have to read that book. Sounds like a good one.
 

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Exactly, I have a at least 10 bic lighters lying around and as part of my packs. They are super cheap, who needs a magnisium strip?
Eventually that lighter fluid runs out. Everyone should be able to make a fire with a flint and/or bow.
 

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Yeah, sorry for the smart ass response, but really one of the reasons I'm trying to prepare before anything happens is to avoid going to the store when everyone else is panicking.

I'll have to read that book. Sounds like a good one.
Oh I didn't think it was smart ass, I'm with you, I have 8 months of freeze dried food for my wife and I to have 1,700 calories a day not counting what's in the kitchen at any given time. 3 weeks of water and two excellent filters, plent of guns and ammo and other crap. Building the arc before the storm is the best way. I'd still try to get more though!

It is a really good book! Not over done to be survivalist porn, just a good story every one can enjoy.
 
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