AMEN. no one will ever escape opinion, but a little honesty in some cases would go a long way. "x,y,z, is the only gun for me. and thus its the only gun for you. well, hell...its the ONLY gun, period!!!" -- i hear that ALL the time. irritating.9mm lover said:I've found that at another forum that shall remain nameless there are a bunch of people who are far more opinionated and will bash any product that isn't in the forum name. The people here seem to be more honest and willing to admit that there are other products that are good, even if they don't like them as much.