Taurus gunsmiths?
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I think you need to know Portuguese.
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I don't think you need a specialist to do a trigger job on a Taurus. A competent gunsmith will be able to pull that off, as well as hundreds of other 'smithing tasks on dozens of different brands in pretty much any configuration. It's just as well because I think your chances of finding a Taurus specialist outside of a Taurus factory is about 0%.
BTW, I'm not a Taurus-basher. I've owned several and have had better results with them than some other "premium" marques (I'm looking at YOU Colt).
BTW, I'm not a Taurus-basher. I've owned several and have had better results with them than some other "premium" marques (I'm looking at YOU Colt).
I'm located in MN. I asked about trigger work there (taurus armed) and the members who responded told me how much trouble I'd get in if it was ever used in a defense situation and how it would void the factory warranty. I was told to get used to it. The local smith who everyone says is the best says there's nothing he can do. The pistol runs great, you just better use freedom or hot reloads to make it function. But, it's nothing like my xdm. I'll ship the thing to whomever can do the job. Thanks for the replies!
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People always freak out about the idea of a prosecutor going after trigger work. It doesn't really seem relevant unless you accidentally discharge.
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everything is relevant in certain states...Iowa for instance, has no Stand Your Ground Law or Castle Doctrine--think a bloodthirsty DA trying to score points for making an example out of a CCP Holder wouldn't use anything he could to paint a picture? I agree, it would only be a minor concern, but to say it isn't something you need to ponder is not really true...same goes with handloaded SD Ammo...
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based upon your "expert advice" elsewhere, I will go ahead and ignore that bit of "wisdumb"...
If you aren't concerned with potential imprisonment and the detremental consequences it can have to your friends and family, you are a fool...a fool who should not be carrying a weapon....
Planning for potential legal ramifications is widely advocated; its the same as having insurance--you hope you never need it, but you are an idiot if you don't have it
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Right, but the bloodthirsty hooligan that needs a hair trigger to kill all the things is easily countered by the idea that you modified the trigger for greater accuracy to keep from hitting innocent bystanders. Which is why it will only be likely to bite you in the ass if it is an accidental discharge.
I don't mean for people not to consider all angles. I just mean not to fret about this one.
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Just do yourself a favor and ditch the 709 for an XDS, Shield, or CM9. If you actually found someone to do the work, you're still throwing good money after bad. After shipping both ways you're looking at spending a minimum of $200, and the gun just isn't worth it. There's no guarantee you'd like the trigger, and if you tried to sell or trade it off you'd never see that money back. Worse yet, there's no shortage of "bubbas" out there who might actually render your firearm inoperable.
And if anyone is concerned about trigger work on a carry gun, look up some of the articles by Massad Ayoob. He's addressed the issue a few years ago in this thread. He's been called as an expert witness in numerous court cases and definitely knows his stuff. It's also never a bad idea to consider CCW insurance. Here's a good company to consider: http://ccwsafe.com
And if anyone is concerned about trigger work on a carry gun, look up some of the articles by Massad Ayoob. He's addressed the issue a few years ago in this thread. He's been called as an expert witness in numerous court cases and definitely knows his stuff. It's also never a bad idea to consider CCW insurance. Here's a good company to consider: http://ccwsafe.com
An xds is one the list. Waiting for Black Friday. Just looking for something to make it more enjoyable at the range. Shot a shield and would rather have the 709. Gonna rent a kahr on the next trip to the gun shop. Again thanks for the replies, and the links.
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Like trying to mask the odor of a hog farm with a bottle of Febreze.
Bit off on the facts here R3dbull. Iowa does have a castle doctrine, but I'll agree to the stand your ground law being sketchy. Here's the snippet form Iowa code 704.1 that deals with use of deadly force in ones home:
"Reasonable force, including deadly force, may be used even if an alternative course of action is available if the alternative entails a risk to life or safety, or the life or safety of a third party, or requires one to abandon or retreat from one's dwelling or place of business or employment."
Found here: Iowa Code 704.1
Only situation I can see where that law would meet a DA who was hell bent on prosecuting a home owner would be if some 10 year old kid wandered into an unlocked house and was gunned down. Though, I imagine that would be similar in almost any state.
Don't know of any smiths up in that area, we have one in Davenport IA that worked on my buddies PT1911 trigger... Did a nice job and got the trigger around 4lbs but my buddy paid a pretty penny for it. At request of the smith he had to order several other parts, I don't know too much about smithing though so I can't tell you much more than that
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The Kahr CM9 is the best little gun on the market all things considered and even when they're not its a very close race.
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And they're still going for less than $350 shipped. That's a whole lot of bang for the buck.
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