Therapy is not covered under any implied warranty! :twisted: I think that DieTrying was having problem because of slide velocity. Having a kung-fu-grip may help, but is not required for shooting pleasure. DieTrying wasn't doing anything wrong but he was having poor luck with the heavy spring. It is not a great thing for everybody, but most of the feedback is positive.DieTrying said:Don called me a "limp" wrister!! Ack!!