[12 Gauge]

Hello, this is my first post on the forum.
Though I have extensively gone through all the popular threads related with the XD. There were some questions and guidance I felt I still needed as most of the information present was old, like 2015 or so.

A little introduction, I am from the south east Asian region. Here we can get both the XD springifled stamped pistols and the HS non springifled marked, same pistols different marking and boxes.
The xd/hs is not very popular here.
People generally want glocks but most of them are gun snobs just buying glocks because they sell for a premium here.

Now without taking more of your time, jumping straight to my question.
2 months back I bought the xd9 mod 2 service model. Seems like springifled has discontinued it but HS is still making it. I previously used a NORINCO NP22 THE SIG CLONE
Pretty hyped about the xd9 until I read the forum and other forums. Man people like to hate it religiously.
After much reading and shooting my own gun, I wanted to know, why does it have the 6o clock hold?
I have shot all the popular brands gun no one needed the 6o clock hold. Glock NORINCO cz sig Walther or the caniks. On the target sheet one can practice and aim below the bull just below the black circle to hit it'd center but what about other instances? Idpa, plinking water bottles at 15,25 yard. I find the idea of aiming below where you want to shoot very absurd. Secondly the much talked about issue the rollpin. It has made me paranoid, the cheap norinco np22 worked like a tank it had no weak link or a part that needed to be changed, even if I dry fired it.
People here recommended me canik, no rollpin issues and getting very very popular.
Just wanted to know has the roll pin issue been resolved?
Members who have their xd9 mod 2 how reliable has it been for you.

The target is from 15 meter I was aiming at center bull.
Thanks and looking forward for replies.

 

[Alex35]

Congratulations on a nice find. I have two XD mod 2 sc. one .45 and one 9mm. Both are early grip zone marked. I've never had any problems with either of them. I also have an older XDM .45. All have been very reliable. I find the grip and the recoil to be very comfortable to shoot. I've seen the rumors on the internet about the pins too. I don't know anyone who has had a problem I wouldn't sell any of my XD's Buy some spare mags and you'll be good to go.

 

[835mag]

Can’t speak to the six o clock hold. All my XD’s hit point of aim. Maybe try letting someone else shoot it and see if the point of impact is still high. Roll pins really aren’t anything to worry about. I’ve shot tens of thousands of rounds through multiple XD firearms and never had a pin fail. If you’re going to do a lot of dry fire use a snap cap.

 

[HngnHunter]

The six-o-clock hold is so that you can see what you want to hit without covering it up with the sight. Your shots seem to be quite high and I also have that happen when I don’t lock my wrists or get lazy with my grip. The roll pin is the stop for the striker to keep it from moving to far forward and jamming with a empty chamber. When you dry fire Allot the pin keeps getting hit, eventually it can crack and break. If you dry fire, just use a snap cap. You can keep an eye on your pin by simply removing the mag and looking down through the pin with light shining up through the mag well. It should be round. If your really stressed about it they make and sell a double roll pin.

 

[12 Gauge]

Appreciate the replies.
I am not breaking my wrists or anything. The manual clearly states that the xd has been sighted in for a 6o clock hold.
Guess when plinking waterbottles and steel plates I'll just have to aim below them to hit the center.

Also I tried searching about torture tests, reliabity tests like the gauntlet military arms test for the xd9 but all I could find was 8, 10 year old videos. I guess it's just not a popular gun because of 3 main reasons I could gather by my research
1) made in Croatia
2) Springfield 2A issues
3) problems with the roll pin.
I was very eager to find the torture tests like other guns but sadly there are only a handful.
And the active self protection video calling it a mac rib of all side arms. Was salt on the wounds.

 

[Unclebob]

Welcome from Northern Illinois..
I have two Mod-2 firearms, one compact and one Tactical both in 9mm.
I have had no issues with either of mine.
They both shot low and left when I first got them, but it was my grip getting the feel for a new handgun they are point of aim now.
As far as the roll pin I have heard that continuous dry fire will damage it, but I never ever dry fire my handguns unless removing the slide for cleaning as per Springfield Support.
I use snap caps for practice.

 

[jonb32248]

Replace the front sight.

 

[Mike51392]

Replace the front sight.

I would replace the rear with a adjustable not the front. All my XD's shoot POA

 

[jonb32248]

If he wants the shot to hit lower, looking at the target results, raise the front sight but those sights are typical XD sights. I am thinking it's OE, operator error.

 

[12 Gauge]

How can it be an operator error when even the manual recommends 6 o clock hold ?

 

[mndoggie]

How can it be an operator error when even the manual recommends 6 o clock hold ?

It is operator error because you are using the wrong hold.

My XD manual shows a picture of their recommended hold which by multiple sources describe as a "center hold." If you use the commonly depicted 6 o'clock hold, you will shoot high.

 

[Mike51392]

Here's a solution if your not happy with your POI. I don't have any experience with it but great reviews. Replacing sights on XD'S isn't that hard and it can be done with a hammer and a punch (assuming you already have a vise).

Here's a link to the manufacturer

 

[M1A4ME]

Different ammo shoots to different points of impact on the paper. Try some different ammo and see if one brand/bullet weight moves your point of impact (POI) downwards towards your POA (point of aim).