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anyone done it? on saturday i was at a friends ranch and we walked up on 3 hogs. i got to within 15 feet and there was a bunch of vines and some very small low branches between me and 2 of the hogs. i hesitated on pulling the trigger cause i didnt know what it would do shooting trough this stuff. i thought about it and was sure of my backstop. hand signaled back to by buddy to let him know i was about to fire anyways. when i returned my left hand to the grip i got busted and they took off. has anyone seen the outcome of shooting through this kind of stuff?
 

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let me add that it was very easy to see through the stuff. it was not at all a shot into the dark. but it didnt look like something could get through without hitting a vine or something.
 

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Depends on the caliber and how thick the brush is. I've shot hogs dead through thick brush before with a 12 gauge. I've shot my .357 mag through light brush. I don't think vines and that sort of a thing would be much of a problem unless the vines are just really, really thick (in diameter).

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let's not forget it can be dangerous shooting through brush
i've done it....only to have rounds boucin back at me off of unforseen sticks
 

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in my hand was my XD-40 tac. loaded with 180gr. hydrashok. the brush was about 10ft. in front of me about 2 feet deep with the hogs just on the other side of it. none of the branches or vines looked thicker than a pencil. next time i go out there i will go to the exact same spot with a 2X2 peice of tin or something, put it where the hogs were, get back where i was and let one fly. i have to try it to see the outcome. im still kickin myself for not doing it. that would of been some good pork chops.
 

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I shot a coyote dead through very thick brush with a .38 (impressive exit wound) and plenty of rabbits with 20,12 and 410 gauge. I'm sure a xd40 would do the same. Just make sure if your trotting around brush with guns you wear orange and know where your buddy is at all times.
 

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FatMatt1981 said:
let's not forget it can be dangerous shooting through brush
i've done it....only to have rounds boucin back at me off of unforseen sticks
what kind of rounds you usin that bounce off sticks? :shock:
 

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.22LR :oops:
I used to get carried away when squirrel hunting as a youngin
a semi auto, and a pocket fulla bullets
yay
 

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TXD,

I'd recommend a different gun for hog hunting.

Or at least cast loads. I'm not saying .40 hollowpoints will not kill a hog because they certainly will but there are much more reliable pig killers. I've seen hogs killed with a lot of different guns down to .22lr but after a while you start to see that certain guns are not necessarily ideal for hog hunting.

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actually i was out there to help out fixing up a few things and get stuff ready for turkey season. walking through the woods heading to check out a fenceline we just happened to hear a squeal so i decieded to try and stalk in on these hogs. and my xd was what i had with me.
 

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TXD said:
actually i was out there to help out fixing up a few things and get stuff ready for turkey season. walking through the woods heading to check out a fenceline we just happened to hear a squeal so i decieded to try and stalk in on these hogs. and my xd was what i had with me.
Oh ok...nevermind then... I woulda done the same thing.
EXCEPT I WOULDA PULLED THE TRIGGER! :lol:

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It depends on how far the target is behind the obstruction. If the obstruction is light, and the target is very close behind it, then typically no problem. Target very far behind means a likely miss or worse.

From my own experience:

20 years ago, I was shooting a 600 yard High Power Rifle (NRA) course. I was using match ammo with 168 or 172 grain bullets in an M1 30-06. About every 4th shot was completely off the paper when the others were scoring 8 or better. It was driving me nuts. I finally realized that just a few thin wispy strands of cheat grass were in front of my muzzle about 10 feet out. (Cheat grass is probably less than a millimeter in diamether). You couldn't see the grass through the peep sights. Most of the bullets got through without hitting, and scored a good hit. Those that hit a single piece of grass would miss a six foot square target board 600 yards away.

Later, I took a defensive rifle class that involved a brush walk looking for hidden targets (IPSC type). I found a target (top third exposed) positioned immediately behind a large stump that had sprouted several shoots or saplings making a very effective brush screen. I fired my AR15 (55 grain FMJ ammo) at that target 6-8 times because I was worried about bullet deflection. Some of the bullets impacted the decaying stump top, other hit the brush limbs, but all hit the target because it was so close behind.

Over the years I've read at least two articles that tested various rifle calibers against simulated brush (constructed of dowels placed in a uniform array) with targets placed behind. The results were the same in both tests. The so-called brush busting calibers with large heavy slow bullets didn't do any better than the light fast calibers. All were deflected about the same, with a slight edge to the faster calibers. There are no great brush busting calibers.

FWIW.
 

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Can't speak for pistols as I would assume they would all be about the same. Velocity and energy are fairly low and assuming the same bullet construction I believe a simple energy table would be a good guess for the best.

Rifles however get more complex because of the compared ranges of velocity. Best study I ever saw on the subject boiled it down to several factors. Energy was only part of the equation. Gyroscopic stability, and bullet construction seemed to be very important. Solids or heavily constructed bullets with quick twists always did the best. Velocity and bullet weight seemed to take the back seat so to speak.
 

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I have a video that discusses this and other ballistics. All bullets tumble and deflect when hitting brush. Even light brush. Bullet weight and velocity do not matter, all that effects is the amount of induced bullet tumble.
 
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