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Whats the best way to sell ammo to another xd talk member? What is the best form payment and the best way to ensure the person can legally have ammo in their possession.
 

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yea ftf is the best just make sure you say, wts ftf and your state like(TX)
 

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I was one of the ones asking explorer about the ammo - I'm in SD and he's in SF. Even though we're in the same state it's too far of a trek just for some ammo (I'd probably do it but my wife would think I'm crazy :mrgreen: )
 

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I copied this and saved it in a file for my own use. I failed to copy the page or author, I think it is one of our brothers on XDtalk.
Ammunition Shipping How-To
Shipping ammunition is not that big a deal if you know what you have to do and what you can't do. Follow these procedures and it will be a non-issue.
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All regulation references are from Title 49 of the Code of Federal Regulations.

Besides these shipping regulations be aware that BATFE regulations also apply. Don't ship to felons, kids, etc. Most likely you'll be required to do a "Adult Signature" add-on to cover the shipper.

Also check on the state laws. More than one online ammo dealer won't ship to California or New Jersey.
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Sec. 173.63 Packaging exceptions.

(b) Cartridges, small arms, and cartridges power devices.
(1) Cartridges, small arms, and cartridges power devices (which are used to project fastening devices) which have been classed as a Division 1.4S explosive may be reclassed, offered for transportation, and transported as ORM-D material when packaged in accordance with paragraph (b)(2) of this section; such transportation is excepted from the requirements of subparts E (Labeling) and F (Placarding) of part 172 of this subchapter. Cartridges, small arms, and cartridges power devices that may be shipped as ORM-D material is limited to:
(i) Ammunition for rifle, pistol or shotgun;
(ii) Ammunition with inert projectiles or blank ammunition;
(iii) Ammunition having no tear gas, incendiary, or detonating explosive projectiles;
(iv) Ammunition not exceeding 12.7 mm (50 caliber or 0.5 inch) for rifle or pistol, cartridges or 8 gauge for shotshells; and
(v) Cartridges, power devices which are used to project fastening devices.
(2) Packaging for cartridges, small arms, and cartridges power devices as ORM-D material must be as follows:
(i) Ammunition must be packed in inside boxes, or in partitions which fit snugly in the outside packaging, or in metal clips;
(ii) Primers must be protected from accidental initiation;
(iii) Inside boxes, partitions or metal clips must be packed in securely-closed strong outside packagings;
(iv) Maximum gross weight is limited to 30 kg (66 pounds) per package; and
(v) Cartridges, power devices which are used to project fastening devices and 22 caliber rim-fire cartridges may be packaged loose in strong outside packagings.

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What this means is you can ship ammunition up to and including 8ga shotshells or .50 cal ammunition. The ammo must be packed in such a way that accidental primer ignition doesn't happen. Plastic ammo boxes are fine as is the way factory ammo comes. Pack shotshells the way the factory does it. .22 ammo only may be packed loose in a box. Pack each box inside another corrogated cardboard box. Used wadded newspaper to keep the boxes from rattling around during shipment. Max gross weight of each package is 66 pounds. If you are shipping a large amount, it has to broken up into lots no heavier than 66 pounds each.

Now that you've got it all packed, lets label it. Since we've reclassed this ammunition from a Class 1.4S Explosive to ORM-D by following the regs in 173.63 the labeling and paperwork requirements are less stringent.

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Sec. 172.316 Packagings containing materials classed as ORM-D.

(a) Each non-bulk packaging containing a material classed as ORM-D must be marked on at least one side or end with the ORM-D designation immediately following or below the proper shipping name of the material. The ORM designation must be placed within a rectangle that is approximately 6.3 mm (0.25 inches) larger on each side than the designation. The designation for ORM-D must be:
(1) ORM-D-AIR for an ORM-D that is prepared for air shipment and packaged in accordance with the provisions of Sec. 173.27 of this subchapter.
(2) ORM-D for an ORM-D other than as described in paragraph (a)(1) of this section.
(b) When the ORM-D marking including the proper shipping name can not be affixed on the package surface, it may be on an attached tag.
(c) The marking ORM-D is the certification by the person offering the packaging for transportation that the material is properly described, classed, packaged, marked and labeled (when appropriate) and in proper condition for transportation according to the applicable regulations of this subchapter. This form of certification does not preclude the requirement for a certificate on a shipping paper when required by subpart C of this part.

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On at least one side, not the top, place label that states "ORM-D". Just above the label you just slapped on the box put the proper shipping name "CARTRIDGES, SMALL ARMS" in printed letters. I've created a JPEG that has a decent sized ORM-D label with the proper shipping name as required.

NOW, you can take the package to your shipper and you're 100% legal and by-the-book. By affixing the ORM-D label to the box you are certifying that what is inside is what you are saying it is and that you packed it as it should be. No further paperwork is required.

The local Post Office (USPS) will not ship ammunition or any other HazMat or ORM-D for that matter. FedEx or UPS are the usual choices. With these shippers you must go to a hub, not one of the strip mall 'stores'.

And if you're thinking about just throwing the ammo in a box and not telling anybody, don't! Penalties for knowingly shipping a HazMat are stiff and if an incident occurs do you want the first responders to be in danger because you didn't want to be inconvenienced? Remember ValueJet? That crash was due to improperly packed and shipped HazMat. Do it right or don't do it at all.
 
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