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After retiring from the navy in 1988, I lived Oak Harbor, Wa on Whidbey Island ....about 65 mile north of Seattle. I though it was God's country and loved the fishing,,hunting and gun friendly laws of the state. After a few years I saw the direction it was headed with the liberal politics taking over and moved to Fl in 1992. Unfortunately, Florida seems to be headed in the same direction. My son lives north of Seattle city limits, and he says the rest of Washington is trying to survive the Democrat onslaught of Socialism in the main cities.....sort of like all the rest of the United States.
 

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Amen! the rich and dumb sheep vote for CONSTANT tax increases! The city cares more about illegals, sanctuary status, homeless, and criminals than it does about its legal, law-abiding people. Constant new gun laws to stop legal citizens and not doing a thing about criminals....

With liberals & democrats in charge, this is SO true!
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Even third world countries don't allow that kind of trash to accumulate on the city streets. Give them benefits and they will come. Take away all the free stuff and they will move on. But the way this film looks, I think your are right, it's too late for Seattle.
 

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I live in Kansas near a city that has a homeless problem. It all started out small with 1 guy that wanted to open a homeless shelter. Word got around that the city hade very good benefits for homeless, vagrants and bums in general. The problem has ballooned into an unsustainable drain on everything that used to run normal. It required a new homeless shelter building, paid help, food donations, support donations and then it really blossomed into more police, more crime, new jail to house to house bums, new mental health facility, free medical and dental and the list goes on and on. There is no end in sight, if you provide free stuff they will come. It keeps getting worse with no fix available. This is the new future of the United States, not just a few cities.
 

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Even third world countries don't allow that kind of trash to accumulate on the city streets.
Having traveled the world and visited many 3rd world countries, I would disagree. Often no social support, but also it seems that typically there isn't a massive concern if you are homeless either.
 

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Even third world countries don't allow that kind of trash to accumulate on the city streets.

Having been stationed in the Philippines, and visited many 3rd world countries during port visits on 6 WestPac cruises, ( I was one to go out and explore parts of port cities and rural areas... I am probably lucky to not have been killed) and have to agree the sights of filth in the street of San Francisco and Seattle are worse than I have seen overseas. Sure there are entire poor areas, but not in most of the major cities main streets...even in Colombo Sri Lanka, and Karachi, Pakistan.
 

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I have no sympathy for those who voted for this. They knew exactly what they were voting for and did it anyway.
Trump could order one of our hospital ships into San Francisco or Seattle, and with FEMA and National Guard ground organization take care of the homeless like a mass casualty event. Without new city leadership and conservative judges, it would revert back to **** city in a year or less.
 

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Let it die.
 

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This happens to all socialist/democrat ran cities.

Just look at Detroit, all kinds of cities in California and other places if you need more proof.
 
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I have no sympathy for those who voted for this. They knew exactly what they were voting for and did it anyway.
Trump could order one of our hospital ships into San Francisco or Seattle, and with FEMA and National Guard ground organization take care of the homeless like a mass casualty event. Without new city leadership and conservative judges, it would revert back to **** city in a year or less.
Although I agree, I have to disagree on one point. The last few local election sessions have had questionable voting results across the country, with evidence of vote tampering. That's just what was exposed, yet the Georgia lost votes story disappeared from the media.

I question my local NV elections from Nov as well. Repubs lost across the board. But our question3 ballot question, which most repubs were against got a 67% NO vote.
 

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I lived in the Seattle area for about four years. The GSD in my avatar was born there. I moved away about ten years ago. After seeing the KOMO report, the change was sickening. I enjoyed my time there, but I don't think I would go back, even for a visit.
 

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Poignant and sad at the same time: must see TV, a microcosm of what is happening in many places across this country.

Downfall of society:

1) drug abuse
2) family values breakdown
 
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Every time some new "Help the Homeless" give away is established, it diminishes the quality of life for everyone else. We are heading toward becoming another 3rd world country. Lowering our lifestyle to help others isn't working. Unfortunately the rest of the world is doing the same thing. The future for our grandkids looks pretty bleak.
 

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I'm reading through this, going to have to do it in sections. But so far it's shocking the city has spent $100k/year per homeless individual.

The whole rent is too high arguments hits home for me, as that's the industry I work in. IME, property taxes are the main driver of rent increases, at least that's what I saw after 15 years of managing property in NYC. No other expense of owning property in NYC went up as quickly as property taxes.
 

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It doesn't matter how high the rent is (I know not your point), many of these people choose to be homeless. They don't want to take care of anything. They expect the world to give them everything, then they trash the place and move on. Put these people into 10 million dollar mansions, and they would be trashed within a week. I don't doubt for a second that there are true heartbreaking stories many are living homelessly, but I expect you are more likely to encounter an avatar of Sloth panhandling on the street.
 

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I haven't worked in residential property in about 7 years now, so I haven't kept up with it. But my point was, just like the article stated, most people think rent increases are a result of greedy landlords. In NYC at least, that has not been my experience. I've worked for many landlords, managing large and small residential properties for 15 years. Now I understand this is NYC, where costs are high all around. But I did not manage a single piece of residential property that had a net positive rental income in NYC. Breaking even really was best case scenario for any residential property owner in NYC. Out of pocket overhead month to month was quite common. I suspect Seattle should be very much the same in this regard.

Now why would anyone still own property in these high cost urban areas? There's 2 main reasons, tax write offs for losses, and refinancing for access to property equity. The tax write off for losses, is what's most relevant to increasing rents. If the loss amount exceeds what income the owner has left to write off after all other deductions, then the only choice is to raise rents. Now if you look at private sector overhead costs of owning property (physical maintenance), cost increases are very gradual, except for emergency repairs (pipes bursting, etc). Even then such unexpected large expenditures, are usually insured, and will be covered despite paying out of pocket initially. On the other hand, government associated overhead costs (water, sewer, property taxes etc), are subject to sudden large increases, on income/expense sheets that have already been operating in the red. This is the primary driver of rent increases IME. So in a nutshell, government blaming high rents for homelessness, but high rents are caused by government.

On another note, I've heard WA state has passed rent control on all residential rentals. I've had a lot of experience managing, and owning rent controlled properties in NYC. That's a whole host of other issues for another discussion.
 

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They expect the world to give them everything
Yep: including free drugs/needles/oreo's/mountain dew etcetera ...and if that's not happening guess what: it's discrimination !!!

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Although I agree, I have to disagree on one point. The last few local election sessions have had questionable voting results across the country, with evidence of vote tampering. That's just what was exposed, yet the Georgia lost votes story disappeared from the media.

I question my local NV elections from Nov as well. Repubs lost across the board. But our question3 ballot question, which most repubs were against got a 67% NO vote.
I have been observing Clark elections for the past 3 cycles so far. All I see is an influx of CA license plates on election days, they vote in LA and then vote again in Las Vegas. And now that liberals are in charge I can bet this trend will only increase. Add the driving licenses for illegals that so called GOP Sandoval made happen and I see no way for NV to turn even purple any time soon. We moved here from Bay Area in hopes that NV will be OK, but now are looking for another destination.

When illegals openly tell newspapers that unions force them to vote, or loose jobs, and with liberals now even more in control the writing is on the wall. Same Denver in CO Las Vegas dictates how the states goes. Vote tampering is real, in NV they "found" hundreds of thousands of votes in late hours, out of a blue, same thing they do in CA and elsewhere.
 
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