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Looking for an unbiased opinion (lol).

I know they're quality pistols, I mean they won Handgun Of The Year a couple times, right? For those of you who own multiple pistols, how how you realistically stack up the XD series pistols, to Glocks and HK's?

I know the finishes are not up to par, but that can be fixed. I'm more interested in accuracy, reliability.

I want to like them... :lol:

I'm not a huge fan of .40S&W, but that may be because the only 40 I had was a Glock 27, and frankly it was jsut too much recoil in that size package.
I need to get out and rent an XD40, and compare to a 9mm.
 

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I shot both the XD9 and Glock 19 (26 is too small, for me anyway) Both accurate and reliable. the Xd just fit a little better in my hand..


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I like Glocks just fine, and would gladly own one, but this is why I chose the XD:

XD has a much better grip angle, although I think anyone can overcome that issue with training and familiarization.
XD has a grip safety.
XD is cheaper.

On the other hand:

I like the Glock trigger better (but you can have the XD trigger modified).
Some people have problems with the XD finish (although the great majority on this board have not).

I've never owned a USP, but I had a Sig 229 for several years. The quality is comparable. Keep in mind the XD has a polymer frame, so if plastic feels "cheap" to you, you may have the same sensation. The average Sig may shoot better groups from a bench rest than the average XD (I don't know), but I can shoot both equally well.
 

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Carried guns for literally decades on duty and off. I would not hesitate to carry my XD as a duty weapon. Matter of fact, it would be my first pick followed by my 1911.
 

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i have a sw99 40 cal 4in.....my xd holds better groupings than my sw99 my xd 9mm sub...that was at about 10 yds....the first 3 shots i fired i put side by side holes overlapping.....enough said for me....other than i would not trade it for a glock or anything else....
 

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I shot a Glock full size for several years. When Ohio looked like it was going to pass CCH, I wanted to downsize and I went out to buy a G26. I tried one for size and didn't like the feel. It felt insecure in my hand. I looked at a Sig P239, a S&W SW9 and a Kahr that day at the gun show and when I picked up the XD-9 Sub Compact I was sold. It is bulkier than I like to carry, but it is great in the hand to shoot.

Features I like
The grip
The grip safety
The takedown system
The steel sights and the fact that they are dovetailed
The magazine is steel
The light rail, even though I am too cheap to pay $100 for an ittybitty flashlight. I like having the option.

I don't like
The overtravel in the trigger
The silly features like the cocked indicator and the loaded chamber indicator. More to break and I consider them worthless since I don't trust anything but a locked back slide to tell me a chamer is UNloaded.
The finish on the grip safety

If I were doing it over, I would probably use the $150 I saved by buying the XD instead of the Glock and order one thru a dealer in SS and with a custom trigger job to remove the overtravel without reducing the trigger pull weight. I may send it out yet for a refinish and trigger job.

It's a nice gun to have on top of the dresser at 3:00am.
 

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Like Verm, I carried guns of and on duty for decades. My dept. did not allow SA weapons, so since I couldn't find a small auto to carry within dept. guidelines, I carried a 5 shot S&W model 60 38 cal. Never felt comfortable with it.

Now that I'm retired, I of course can carry anything. I looked into the Glock subbies in 9mm, 40 and 45. The recoils didn't bother me as I have large hands, but what I didn't like was: 1. the grip was too wide or at least felt it. 2. the slide release "button" was way too small; I found it difficult to work it, it bent my thumb nail back and caused my thumb to bleed. 3. Perhaps most important, they don't have an ambidextrous mag release.

The XD doesn't have any of those problems; hence my reason for buying it. I had never heard about this weapon until someone on a police website I go to mentioned. it. I wasn't able to shoot the subbie at the range as they didn't have any available, but did shoot the 9mm and 40cal in the 4". Liked them. I bought the XD 9mm SC as the 40 wasn't on the market yet. Except for one of the sights being mismatched (which was replaced by SA at their expense) I have had no problems and love the gun. I carry it ccw with 1 extra mag. I would highly recommend buying one. I wished my dept. had carried the bigger model for on duty use instead of the Beretta 92f, but they didn't ask my opinion. :D
 

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The silly features like the cocked indicator and the loaded chamber indicator. More to break and I consider them worthless since I don't trust anything but a locked back slide to tell me a chamer is UNloaded.
Yeah, but if they break, everything still functions perfectly.
 

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I had a Glock 27 (notice past tense) and now a SA XD40 Service. The Glock's grip was too fat and too short for my hands and the recoil, while not super punishing, was quite robust. I much prefer my XD Service and would take it over the larger Glock 23 as well. I find the XD's grip much more comfortable than any of the Glocks including my slimmed down, single stack Glock 36. Yes, the SA finish is a bit of a negative but can be fixed. There are plenty of outfits that offer polymer coating - extremely rust resistant. $60 to do the slide at most places.

Get the XD. You won't be disappointed. IMHO one of the best bargains out there. I now have 400 rounds through mine and not one single failure.
 

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Sorry I couldn't help myself....in regards to the subject....


Im sure there are some out there who look upon their guns as things to worship......

 

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It is currently my carry Gun. It was between a Glock 23 (my friend has one) and the XD-40. The XD felt SOOOO much better in my hand and pointed much better. Hold each and my mind was made up.

It's as accurate if not more thna my friends glock. I have a collection of 12 handguns and is as acurate as most except my Colt 1911, Beretta (both 5" guns) and my S&W mod 66 .357mag.

Also it was frfinised by springfield under warrenty.

It is a great weapon.

If it fits in your hands and points well for you... U can't go wrong. It also Cheaper then a Glock and MUCH cheaper than an HK.

I plan on getting an HK USP later this year. I will carry witch ever I can shoot the best.
 

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All depends on what you want/need a gun for.

I think I have shot about every kind of handgun ever made.

The XD is by far the best shooting gun for self defense I ever shot. But that's for me. For others maybe it does not feel as right. How a gun feels...how it fits your hand and points is a pretty subjective thing.

At 7-10 yards, I practice with a silouhette target. I NEVER use the sights. I just draw the gun and fire.

It seems like I cannot miss COM with this gun (mine is a Subcompact, so the service and tacticals can only be as good or better).

It is just like pointing your finger at someone. Bang. Can't miss.

I have a .45 1911 that is certainly more accurate for target shooting. I used to have a couple of .22 caliber target pistols that were even more accurate than the .45.

I had a full size 1911 frame 9mm which was too big and too heavy to carry concealed (for me). I had a nice sized 9mm S&W 469, but the DA/SA trigger was just too difficult for self defense (or even target shooting). I want the first shot to be easy, not hard. (It sure was a nice looking gun though).

Every gun has it's purpose. For a carry gun for civilian self defense, I cannot think of a gun that surpases the XD. You can spend a lot more money, but I don't believe you can get a more reliable, better made or more accurate gun for self defense. AND the gun is very safe. Far more safe than a Glock (for example) ...at least in my opinion. And I believe statistics would bear that out.

You can certainly get nicer looking guns. You can get far more accurate guns for shooting a target that is 25 yards away. But at 25 yards, I am not shooting anyone in self defense. (I am running away).

The XD is not a target gun. It is not a hunting gun. It is not a showpiece. It is not a status symbol. It is not an "intimidating" looking gun.

It is however a perfect gun for concealed carry self defense. If that is what you want a gun for, the XD is the ticket. For other purposes, other guns may be better.


Peace,
D.
 

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Thanks for all the replies. Good stuff.

Primarily this pistol is gonna be a range gun, and/or a home defense weapon.
I already have a Taurus PT145 MillPro for carry, and won't change that. Since I already have one .45 my thoughts were to add a big brother for the house - a Glock 21. I owned one for about a yr, and liked it. But, the other part of me wants to try something new. So, I'm looking into the XD9.

I also have a extra frame for a G21, which is nice. Because I plan to shoot competitively with it. So, I can mod one frame, and keep one stock.

Hmmm. Decisions. Ultimately, I'll have both. It's just a matter of which to get first!
 

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Primarily this pistol is gonna be a range gun, and/or a home defense weapon.
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Interesting.....as a range gun, I don't know if an XD would be at the top of my list like it is as a carry gun.

I love my XD9 sub. And in truth, it is quite accurate on the range. More accurate than seems reasonable for a gun with such a short sight radius.

But if I were buying a 9mm gun to shoot primarily on the range, and not a pure target gun, I would choose a Browning Hi-Power over the XD (funds permitting). And of course as a home defense weapon, it would be the equal of an XD, as would most 9mm guns.

I like the HP trigger (almost as much as the trigger on a 1911). I feel the pistol is very well balanced and just fun to shoot and very accurate.

Last night I went to the range and shot targets hung sideways. I am not a great shot, but I was able to hit the edge of the paper (and the inch or so that showed) pretty consistently with the Browning at about 10 yards. I can't do that with my XD, I may be able to with the .45, but I didn't get to try. (It's nice that 9mm ammo is so much cheaper than .45.....you don't feel as bad when you miss).

Peace,
D.
 

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Well, I had some extractor issues in mine, XD-9 service model. My local smith finaly fixed what SA could not when I sent it to them RMA. Overall the gun is rugged and reliable with excellent ergonomics. It is light, fast to reload and has nice recoil recovery back on target. With 15 round mags it is my usual carry gun right now (I may lose the mags due to a new WA AWB in the works). I have let some peopel at my range try it and all liked it. One gentleman in federal service especially liked it compared to his issue piece. Outside of a CZ-75B it is my favorite gun to shoot.
 

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I have a G17 and the XD. While there are strengths and minor weaknesses of both, they get compared in forums against each other a lot because they are so similar in function and quality. Both are great guns. I like the XD slightly more for personal reasons (it fits my hand slighty better), but I enjoy, keep, and shoot both. I view them both as excellent guns, and both have been flawless.

Since you said you will probably get another gun anyway and you like variety, I say get the XD first. Then for your next gun you can make your own decision on whether you want another Glock or XD. Good luck!
 

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I have (or have owned) many of the decent "service pistols" made today, including multiple SIGs, Berettas, Glocks, 1911s, HKs, S&Ws, and a few others like CZ and High Powers.

In my opinion, the XD is generally the equal of any of them. For pure shootability and ergonomics, it is very hard to beat -- matched only by the 1911. The XD has supplanted the Glock in my collection; only a second-gen G19 and G17 remain as the best examples of that platform

There are certain minor weaknesses of the XD that can be held against it compared to certain other designs. For instance, the metal finish, the long trigger reset, and a few others.

However, all handguns have their weak points, and the XD's are relatively minor. They may not even pose a problem for the great majority of XD owners. What's more, they can easily be remedied. This can't necessarily be said for the weaknesses of the other types of handguns.

For me, the XD is my preferred choice for competition and home defense. Not that it's so much better than the others but it has features that make it attractive for these roles -- again, in my opinion. I don't carry a XD concealed, as it's a bit bulkier than I prefer and I don't really like subcompacts. But when I go to the range, an XD always goes with me.
 
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