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Is it possible to open a shotshell that is loaded with birdshot and replace it with #4 Buckshot ??

I'm asking because I can buy the 100 round packs # walmart pretty cheap, and loose shot is not that expensive.

What would be required to do this safely and effectively ??

I'm also thinking of this as a cheap, SHTF, ran out of the good stuff option.

Any thoughts ??
 

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Interesting question. I'll be looking for a good answer myself. :cool:
 

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LIGHTLY open up the crimps with a butter knife, replace the shot, and use a "re-crimper"
(they make something like that for people who re-load their own shells)

It would be cool to make some of them Rock-Salt loads like Granny from the Beverly Hillbillies!!!

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Buy a Lee Load-All. I have reloaded every kind of 12 gauge round I could think of with this thing. Slugs, Buck, Bird, Flechette! these can be bought at midway for under $50. Once you get a 'feel' for reloading the crimps will look as good as factory ammo. Seriously everyone should have one of these.
 

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I doubt that once you have really run the number that it turns out cost effective. You have to buy the economy birdshot ammo, then the buckshot and then the labor to do the conversion.

The other problem is buckshot can behaves very differently in the barrel than bird shot. So a powder charge that is safe with 1.125oz of birdshot may or may not be safe with a similar weight of buckshot. Watch for deals on buckshot and stock up if that it was you need/shoot.

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I just buy #4 rounds...which are a good choice IMO.
 

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I doubt that once you have really run the number that it turns out cost effective. You have to buy the economy birdshot ammo, then the buckshot and then the labor to do the conversion.

The other problem is buckshot can behaves very differently in the barrel than bird shot. So a powder charge that is safe with 1.125oz of birdshot may or may not be safe with a similar weight of buckshot. Watch for deals on buckshot and stock up if that it was you need/shoot.

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If you replace the birdshot with the same weight or less using buckshot, you'll be ok. I can speculate that patterns will be wide and useful only for close range. Most factory buckshot is buffered to limit pellet damage for tighter patterns

Just buy cheap 25rd boxes of buckshot online from places like ammotogo, natchez, ammoman, etc. It's cheaper and safer - especially if ü don't have access to shotgun reloading components.
 

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There is such a difference in powder charge that I don't know if the heavier shot would come out at an effective velocity. If I remember corectly walmart had winchester 00buck for $7.98 a box of 15 , I know that is a lot more expensive than their bulk pack target rounds but you also know you can trust them.
 

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All interesting ideas.

Like I said, I was thinking SHTF and what it would take to convert cheap stuff ... The birdshot would be the last stuff on the shelves, IMO ... So I was just thinking .... Thanks for the responses.
 

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Why would anybody ever need more than a handgul of buckshot rounds, anyhow? :rolleyes: Surely, nobody goes out an shoots that stuff recreationally?
 

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Why would anybody ever need more than a handgul of buckshot rounds, anyhow? :rolleyes: Surely, nobody goes out an shoots that stuff recreationally?
Zombies are recreational !
 

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It would be cool to make some of them Rock-Salt loads like Granny from the Beverly Hillbillies!!!
Don't do it, it will scatch up the barrel of the shotgun!

If you replace the birdshot with the same weight or less using buckshot, you'll be ok. I can speculate that patterns will be wide and useful only for close range. Most factory buckshot is buffered to limit pellet damage for tighter patterns.
Use the bird shot to buffer it! :)

If you try this, my suggestion is, make sure you get high brass loads before attempting this, that way, you'll be able to propell the load you put in it.

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The birdshot would be the last stuff on the shelves, IMO ..
I dunno, I see it going first. People that don't know all that much will see 1. cheaper price and 2. more rounds.

and I mean when you load that drum for the Saiga 12 lets face it...spray and pray :mrgreen:
 

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LEE LOAD ALL II is something I'm going to check out. I've never even considered reloading 12ga since it's so affordable but what about reloading sabot slugs? Is that doable? Those things are E X P E N S I V E
 

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@ chupacabras - Lee claims their cast 'Drive Key' slugs may be used in fully-rifled sg barrels and smoothbore using conventional shotgun reloading components

Lee Precision, Inc. Reloading Tools and Equipment: Black Powder Molds

Lee Slug Mold features the exclusive drive key. The drive key positively rotates the slug in rifled shotgun barrels. The key doubles as a support rib allowing use of a standard trap wad - no need for a support wad or base filler. Sabot wad design outperforms rifled slugs in rifled slug barrels. Velocity and accuracy meet and exceed expensive factory loaded rifled slugs. Molds feature self centering automatic core pins for maximum speed and convenience. Mold is complete with sprue plate, handles and complete instructions with suggested loads. Best of all, they're priced at what
others charge for handles alone!


Back in the '92 LA riots, it was said that the first ammunition to be depleted from suppliers shelves were shotgun shells of every type
 

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If you had a Lee Loadall & the time & the buckshot wt. is exactly the same or lighter than the birdshot, it could be done, but why? Just buy 100rds of buckshot & squirrel it way, shoot some now & then to stay familiar. You can only carry so much ammo in a SHTF scenario & zombies only occur in movies.:rolleyes:
 
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