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***UPDATE***UPDATE***UPDATE***

As promised - I have posted the results of my decision to go with M&R Arms for the refinishing of my XD9SC. Pics are on the 4th Pagehttp://www.hs2000talk.com/viewtopic.php?t=16144&start=45.

Enjoy! :mrgreen:

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Ok, I know there are several threads on the subject of the standard finish on the XD not being the greatest but I just want a quick poll of what you all have done to your XDs to remedy this.

Need to know....
1. what finish you chose,
2. where can I see some pics,
3. color options, &
4. approx. cost to have my sub-recoated.

This is for my daily carry gun so it will get plenty of abuse. Needs to be durable as I'm already getting some rusting and some pretty noticable scuffing from my holster etc.

Thanks in advance and HAPPY NEW YEAR to you all!
 

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dbrownusarmy said:
How long had you carried it before you started noticing rust?
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Just a couple of weeks. Until I started carrying, I never had a problem. It was weird too. The rust wasn't just on the scuffed areas. It was ALL OVER the slide. Tiny spots of rust everywhere. Happened overnight when I left my piece in my truck (locked and in the locked garage of course). As soon as I noticed it I just took a rag and it all rubbed right off. Obviously there was more moisture in the truck than in my house where I normally keep it but I still want to have it recoated. Possibly in OD or a dark gray???
 

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I live in a very humid (and salty) environment -- central coastal Florida. Have had my XD 40 a little over a month now. I'm not carrying, but it does get out. No rust. But I will admit, I was somewhat worried based upon some of the things I've seen on this board and with the air here. I am using Blue Wonder Armadillo on it, ordered from Pistol Gear and again, no rust!
 

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People don't typically realize this, but human sweat (and blood, etc) is highly corrosive to most metals (and metal finishes). That the reason so few materials work inside the body. One thing to do, no matter what finsih you use, is after carrying next to skin, wipe you pistol down. Also keeping a light coat of oil on the pistol will help.

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dolanp, what do you think that would run?
You know I'm not entirely sure how much it should cost or who is best to go with. I think Springfield charges something like $145 for this kind of service, though there are others such as Tripp Research that apparently do the slide and included parts for $55. Canyon Creek also does some finishes (namely Gun Kote) but I don't believe that is chroming. I think they can hard chrome but I don't see the price for that service. If anyone knows of some other good places please chime in.
 

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What is Springfield doing to remeady this problem, I'm sure they know about it. Seems wierd they would make such a nice gun with such a crappy finish..


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I guess it needs to be said again. Springfield does not manufacture the XD. They are the North American distributor. All they do is warranty work and parts replacement. The XD is made in Croatia.
 

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And if you are having a rusting issue, call SA and let them know. Several folks here have done so and the gun was given an Armory Kote under warranty, which is supposed to be a better finish. One fellow recommended M&R (http://www.mrarms.com/index.html) and they run about $55 for the slide only (with slide internals). Another fellow recommended Robar (http://www.robar.com) and they run about $150 to NP3 the slide, slide internals, and frame internals, they call this the Norton special (basically for poly frame guns). Personally, after looking at all the options, I'll probably go with the M&R, basically because they are less expensive ;). NP3 Looks cool, but I'm all about cost effectiveness :). Anyway, that's all I've got for ya.

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I am using Boeshield T-9 on my bi-tone XD-9 (slide only). This stuff was made to prevent corrosion on jets and is what I use to keep corrosion off the cast iron and steel surfaces of all my tools in my garage shop. I live in hot, humid Florida and nothing is more likely to cause rust than our typical weather. It costs about $12-$14 per spray can from a number on Internet vendors. www.Woodcraft.com is just one of them. Give it a try, it is a whole lot less expensive than refinishing the slide and one quick spray lasts 6 months or more on my tools.
 

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I'll have my XD back from Robar on tuesday and can try and have some pics up. as i have said in other posts, if my buddies 92F is any indication, it should be sweet!! corosion protection and lubrication in one coating. no, it is not cheap, but i like their reputation and a lifetime warranty on the coating.
 

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I highly recommend Falcon Gun Finishing:
http://www.falcongunfinishing.com/aboutus.html
I've had three guns done by Jeff and I can say that, without a doubt, his product is top notch! He recently started using a new ceramic formula and it is tough as nails. You won't find any Duracoat here. :wink:

Jeff does work for some pretty big names in the custom gun market and is really great to work with. He knocks off 20% if it's already dissassembled. I had him do a 1911 frame a year or so ago and I believe it was $60.00. I imagine it would be about the same for a slide, but you'd want to check, it might be cheaper (mention you talked to Evan and he might cut you a deal :lol: ).

I just picked up my Taurus PT-92 (that I bought back in 1984 and was in horrible condition) on Saturday and it looks simply awesome!!!

Click here to see a picture:
http://www.axeforum.com/community/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=424
 

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msidner said:
And if you are having a rusting issue, call SA and let them know. Several folks here have done so and the gun was given an Armory Kote under warranty, which is supposed to be a better finish. One fellow recommended M&R (http://www.mrarms.com/index.html) and they run about $55 for the slide only (with slide internals). Another fellow recommended Robar (http://www.robar.com) and they run about $150 to NP3 the slide, slide internals, and frame internals, they call this the Norton special (basically for poly frame guns). Personally, after looking at all the options, I'll probably go with the M&R, basically because they are less expensive ;). NP3 Looks cool, but I'm all about cost effectiveness :). Anyway, that's all I've got for ya.

Matthew
I think you should also try Springfield first, make a complaint and see if they'll Armory cote it for you under warranty. Just because it's made in another country, they still put their name and warranty on it. If I was selling a product with my name on it and knew it had a flaw, I'd sure as hell try to correct it.
I had mine done by http://www.ccr-refinishing.com/ for $55 slide only and I'm pleased with the way it came out. I didn't send it to Springfield because I wanted to color match it to one of my AR's. Just another option for you to choose from.
 

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Obviously there was more moisture in the truck than in my house where I normally keep it but I still want to have it recoated. Possibly in OD or a dark gray???
Well, there is always the option of parkerizing the slide if you want a dark gray. just about any gunsmith can do this for you or you can order the DIY kit from Brownells. I did a rifle a long time ago and I don't recall it being all that hard to do. Then again, I like doing as much on my own as I can.
 

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LeMat said:
I just picked up my Taurus PT-92 (that I bought back in 1984 and was in horrible condition) on Saturday and it looks simply awesome!!!

Click here to see a picture:
http://www.axeforum.com/community/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=424
What colors and finish did you choose on that Taurus? Need to know if it's the regular Falcon Coat Finish or the Extreme? If it's the regular Falcon Coat Finish, did you choose the semi gloss, satin, or flat finish and in what colors exactly. Sorry but I need the detail cause I like the dark color you have but need to know if it's a black or dark gray etc. Also intersted in the stainless color you have on there as well.

Thanks.
 
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