[Tim_in_NC]

Hi all...

As I mentioned earlier I just purchased an XD-40 4" Service for primarily HOME Defense...

I'd like to also have a primary range XD and possibly a Carry/Conceal XD...

I've been thinking of an XD-9 Subcompact for the Carry/Conceal and maybe even an XD-9 5" Tactical for my Primary Range Weapon...

What do you guys think?

Thanks,
TIM

 

[AresXD40]

In my opinion, practice with what you are gonna protect your life with. Better to be proficient with the caliber and weapon of your home defense and carry/conceal weapons, than practice with a "range only" weapon.

 

[beakersloco]

In my opinion, practice with what you are gonna protect your life with. Better to be proficient with the caliber and weapon of your home defense and carry/conceal weapons, than practice with a "range only" weapon.

+1

Just make sure you practice with which ever one you decide to use for home defense. Many people also recommend shooting a defensive match or 2 with each weapon to get used to shooting under pressure. This should help you decide which one you are more proficient with plus give you some real world type training that is way better then going to the range standing in a lane shooting at paper targets.

 

[Tim_in_NC]

Thanks guys... I definitely want to be proficient with each weapon as well as staying fresh with each... I was thinking that the XD-9 Sub. might also be a good gun for my wife. She has already expressed a liking to it....

I was just thinking that if I shoot off hundreds or rounds a week, that the XD-9 Tactical would help out on ammo, etc...

ALSO.... what movie is that avitar from? Looks like a great film...

-TIM

 

[FatMatt1981]

Hi.
The only concern that comes to my mind when usin a pistol for home defense is over-penetration. I've worried about rounds goin through the perp, and then through the bedroom wall where my family sleeps.
I've always like the "hallway howitzer" approach.....a shotgun with really light small game loads.
just my 2cents worth here....

 

[manygunner]

Thanks guys... I definitely want to be proficient with each weapon as well as staying fresh with each... I was thinking that the XD-9 Sub. might also be a good gun for my wife. She has already expressed a liking to it....

I was just thinking that if I shoot off hundreds or rounds a week, that the XD-9 Tactical would help out on ammo, etc...

I have heard disquieting reports of malfunctions in the XD-SC at my range. I have tried it as a rental in 9mm and found it pleasant to fire and very accurate. I finaly decided against it as my local gunstore guy pointed out that the size difference between it (XD-SC) and a service was negligeable for all practical purposes. Now I carry my XD-9 Service in an IWB holster with no concealment issues. I also prefer the full grip as I have large hands.

ALSO.... what movie is that avitar from? Looks like a great film...

-TIM

I also asked and was informed it is from the movie "Collateral" by the avatar owner.

 

[manygunner]

Hi.
The only concern that comes to my mind when usin a pistol for home defense is over-penetration. I've worried about rounds goin through the perp, and then through the bedroom wall where my family sleeps.
I've always like the "hallway howitzer" approach.....a shotgun with really light small game loads.
just my 2cents worth here....

If worried by overpentration try frangible rounds. They are availble, I have some in.45 ACP for home defense. The "Extreme Shock" rounds are available in most well stocked stores, www.extremeshockusa.com to look at products. They claim to have specialty defense rounds to prevent overpenetration and maximum stopping power. The stuff is loaded to +P power so do not use it in a S&W gun (S&W told me +P ammo was not safe in their 4563TSW model that we use for home defense) or a ported barrel (read Springfields XD manual, tehy explicitely tell you not to use +P ammo in their ported models).

 

[Verm]

The XDSC with a pearce extension isn't much different from the Service when gripping and shooting, yet different enough to notice when carrying all day. I carry the Service once in awhile but my SC is my primary. (I am still a little bummed that it's not an SC40 but I couldn't pass up the deal I got on the 9mm)
Only change I would make is if I ever find a SC40 I would trade the 9 in on it.

As for over penetration, if you use a good JHP you will be ok AS LONG as you hit what you are shooting at. Anything you use will go through a wall including a shotgun shell so you need to practice to make sure you hit your target and make sure you know what's behind it.

 

[Tim_in_NC]

Thanks for the info guys... Yea and 40 cal sub might be better to Carry/Conceal ....

I'll have to check out this movie , Collateral

TIM

 

[CahillXD]

I agree with manygunner on this one. XD sub is smaller than the service but not by much. Actually because of the way the slide sits on my P99 the XD sub is only 3/4" shorter in bbl length and maybe an inch in grip length. Don't get me wrong, I love my sub compact and with my new XDgear hi-cap mag I love it even more. I just think if you have a service model that can be used for all three of your rrequirements.

As far as home defence, I have free fire zones and no fire zones in my house. I don't have them written down or anything, but I've thought it through, and you should too.

HTH
Chris Cahill

 

[retired]

manygunner, what type of malfunctions are you talking about. The only time I have had any is shooting reloads I bought at a gun show. I can put up with that since it's just for practice and the rounds are cheap. WWB have never caused a problem and the Ranger Talons I use for defense run perfect.

I am only asking out of curiosity, as I know everone's experience can be different and no mechanical device is perfect.

 

[ahroc]

I like this option http://www.hs2000talk.com/viewtopic.php?t=18869 just my 2-cents

 

[cyberstarseven]

I recently got my Sub in 40 Cal. It is my primary carry and home defense gun. After todays session I have run about 550 rounds through her and haven't had a single issue. Also getting decent 3-4 inch groups at 20-25 feet. Loving my XD!

 

[manygunner]

manygunner, what type of malfunctions are you talking about. The only time I have had any is shooting reloads I bought at a gun show. I can put up with that since it's just for practice and the rounds are cheap. WWB have never caused a problem and the Ranger Talons I use for defense run perfect.

I am only asking out of curiosity, as I know everone's experience can be different and no mechanical device is perfect.

I was informed by an instructor at my local range that at a recent defensive pistol class two XD-SC gun had jammed up several times. From what I heard it was an FTF type malfunction. I do not know as to the condition/maintenance these guns had so I can not comment further. I was not there. I just thought I would pass the data along.

 

[beakersloco]

As for over penetration, if you use a good JHP you will be ok AS LONG as you hit what you are shooting at. Anything you use will go through a wall including a shotgun shell so you need to practice to make sure you hit your target and make sure you know what's behind it.

Take a look at this site ( http://www.theboxotruth.com/1/ )if you are concerned with over penetration . Good real world info.

Another thing that I have seen mentioned here many times is to figure out your fire and no fire zones. Where it is safe for you to shoot and not have to worry about hitting family members.

I also asked and was informed it is from the movie "Collateral" by the avatar owner.

I actually am not the avatar owner ...I just found this on another forum one night and started using it .