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To begin with, I was a die hard S&W M&P fan until I picked up the XD-M 5.25 a little over a month ago. I'm accustomed to shooting an M&P 9 Pro with a 4.5# trigger out of the box.

Then, I bought the XD-M 5.25 which claimed to be "Competition Ready" which I soon found to be the farthest thing from the truth. ;) With the XD-M I went from shooting Bullseyes at 50 feet, with my M&P Pro 9, to shooting all over the board with the XD-M 5.25 'Competition'.

The first thing I noticed about this pistol was the excessive, and very lawyerly 7# trigger that I measured on my Timney Trigger Scale. After firing 6 magazines the trigger did not smooth out at all.

I'm really willing to give the XD-M a chance, but what would your advice be for me as far as the trigger weight goes? Does it ever smooth out, or will I be stuck with a 7# trigger unless I get an action job?
 

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It seems that most are spending money on a trigger job.
 

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It seems that most are spending money on a trigger job.

I feel kind of jipped. I was under the impression that this would be a pistol that was 'Competition Ready' out of the box!

So, I'm going to have to spend another $100+ on an already $650 pistol? What gives?
 

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There's a couple of threads about the 5.25 floating around here, and that's what people who don't like the trigger are doing.

I really wish someone would do a Ransom style test of the 5.25 against an XD9 5-inch.
Then everyone would know if the barrel lock-up/slide-fit is really more accurate, or if some people can just shoot the XDm better because of grip changes, and personal preference.

You bought a good gun, for sure ... Heck, I've got +13,000 rounds through my XD9, and it's all still in stock condition, with nothing replaced EVER ... Some people have shot more rounds, but I think they've tinkered with their guns, triggers and such, but regardless, they do last.

But if you want a better trigger, you'll have to pay or tinker ...
Powder River Precision, and Springer Precision :: The XD Specialists are often recommended by people for work/trigger parts, both are very friendly, and Scott @ Springer is often on this forum.

Also,
Keep in mind that some people never pull the trigger on a competition gun, until they've had some work done.
 

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I was in the same boat and my 5.25 had the worst trigger of any of my XD`s (I own 42 of them in a sorts of models and variations). Do yourself the favor and send that thing to Scott at Springer Precision. I have been letting some folks at the gun store play with mine after Scott worked his Magic and they are also going with the Springer Trigger job. By the way mine pre Springer measured an Average of 7 pounds to 9 pounds.
 

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Are there any aftermarket kits available for them? I've done a lot of my own trigger work in the past, and feel I'm well versed when it comes to my own triggers.

I was talking it over with my wife, and in my original post I feel like I've given the XD-M 5.25 a bad rap that was undeserved. It may have been because I was accustomed to shooting a lighter trigger on the previous session. Ten minutes prior to picking up my XD-M today I had a 45 minute session with my Limcat. That is probably why the trigger on the XD-M 5.25 felt so awful. After all, to get pistols away from stock you have to put a little money into them.
 

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Are there any aftermarket kits available for them? I've done a lot of my own trigger work in the past, and feel I'm well versed when it comes to my own triggers.

I was talking it over with my wife, and in my original post I feel like I've given the XD-M 5.25 a bad rap that was undeserved. It may have been because I was accustomed to shooting a lighter trigger on the previous session. Ten minutes prior to picking up my XD-M today I had a 45 minute session with my Limcat. That is probably why the trigger on the XD-M 5.25 felt so awful. After all, to get pistols away from stock you have to put a little money into them.
Springer Precision has a kit you can do yourself that's supposed to be pretty good.

I just sent him mine and did a bunch of stuff at once and it's been well worth it to me.
 

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Me and my friends were playing with one at the local gun store. We all agree, with a trigger job, it would be really nice.

I have several XDMs and my everyday carry / IDPA gun is a 3.8C XDM in 9mm and it has the Powder River Precision trigger. I was at 6.6lbs stock and now am in the 3-4lbs range. World of difference.
 

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To the OP, I have an XD45 that I purchased just to have something different to shoot than my Glocks. I shot it a few times and liked everything about it except for the trigger. I got to the point that I was on the fence about selling it and decided to give it a chance and spend the money on a trigger kit. I did my research and decided on the PRP ultimate match trigger kit. I have never spent this much on a trigger job but figured I would this time after watching some youtube videos and liking what I was seeing. Now I am not a gun smith by a long shot and have only fooled around with Glock triggers because they are so simple. I got my kit in the mail and went strait to my shop to install it. It was very simple using PRP's youtube video as a step by step guide and only took me about 45 minutes and that was taking my time to make sure I didn't screw it up. The last thing I wanted to do was to have to buy a new trigger assy for my gun. I could have sent it to PRP but that would have cost more money having to deal with FFL and shipping to and from fees and down time while the gun is there. Plus I have a great deal of pride knowing that I installed it and it functions correctly and I got a little more intimate with my XD and know the gun better inside and out than before.

My trigger has 1/2 the take up, 1/2 the reset distance and no overtravel compaired to the stock trigger. What impressed me the most is that the trigger has the same resistance from start to finish and the striker drops without any warning. On my Lymann digital trigger pull quage I was getting an average of 3.6# on the trigger pull weight. My son and I installed the same trigger in his XD9 and after just 1 magazine at the range he said "this is the best $135.00 gift I ever got". The trigger improved both of our groups at the range, more so his than mine as he is a bigging shooter. It made me quite happy seeing the smile on his face as his groups moved from low left to center mass, it gave him a lot more confidence in his CCW.

Now I have not tried a Springer kit but I feel their is no need to as I am moore than happy with the PRP kit.
 

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I am very intrigued as to why ajamesp51...I guess owner of xd-hs2000.com would recommend springerprecision.com for trigger work over and over again. I know people do favors for one another, but is there a reason why springerprecision should be mentioned by another competent gunsmith? Is it advertisement? I myself have a PRP Ultimate trigger. Many have mentioned it. All I am wondering is PRP less than Springer simply because another highly recommended vendor says so? Please inform me if Springer is better than PRP ajamesp51. I don't know any better.

I spent good money on the PRP Ultimate trigger. Is the SpringerPrecision trigger better? Let every one know before they waste their money. Or are you just trying to make more money?

I am actually working on a couple articles if you give my to latter today I will have something nice for you guys to read.

Basically I have tried almost everyones trigger jobs, up until my 5.25 I had never tried a Springer Job. His trigger that he did is phenomenal. But first let me say that I sent my gun to him....not using one of the kits. Kits vs an actual person doing the job is on two different levels. If you send your Gun to Daniel at PRP I know you will also get a great trigger job second to none. If you order the Kits and do it your self you may or may not get the same result as what those guys can do. If I would have used the Springer kit on my gun it would have been good but not near as fine tuned since he knows his parts and how far you can push them.

When I got my 5.25 back I compared it to some great trigger jobs including my own. And that has more positives then the rest (I have never sent a gun to Powder River to let Daniel do a custom job only parts kits) including I got all of my factory parts back and I did not have to do anything. I sat back and let the job be done. Kits vs custom they are on different levels how can you expect some one who has never even taken an XD apart (the threads pepper xdtalk) to achieve the level of someone who has probably done thousands of them. You can read me in hundreds of posts saying to realize your limits and abilities.....I can turnaround a sight install faster than anyone and I would challenge Scott or any one at Springfield at that. But a trigger job may take me two weeks or longer. I have personal project guns I have been meaning to refinish for years and "one day I will get around to it". I am busy trying to keep up with the sights and refinishing of customers guns before my own. And yes I will make money off an article about Springer Precision......if you want to read the article and see all of the pictures you will go to my website. I don`t have any advertisers on my website....but if you go to my website the chances of you using my services for sights or accessories grows. I am inciting you over to my place with free information.

Oh yea OldSchools magwell, I ordered one of those for my 5.25. OldSchool is also a competitor and I have also used everyone else's magwells. Scott made a fantastic product and I will recommend it as well.

I would be stupid not to use quality parts and services no matter who makes or does them.
 

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I am very intrigued as to why ajamesp51...I guess owner of xd-hs2000.com would recommend springerprecision.com for trigger work over and over again. I know people do favors for one another, but is there a reason why springerprecision should be mentioned by another competent gunsmith? Is it advertisement? I myself have a PRP Ultimate trigger. Many have mentioned it. All I am wondering is PRP less than Springer simply because another highly recommended vendor says so? Please inform me if Springer is better than PRP ajamesp51. I don't know any better.

I spent good money on the PRP Ultimate trigger. Is the SpringerPrecision trigger better? Let every one know before they waste their money. Or are you just trying to make more money?

I'm sure ajamesp51 is not getting a kick back for recommending a particular trigger job over the other, he is an Honest guy recommending what HE has tried and Prefers.

Google or YouTube their videos and pay attention to trigger location after trigger job.
Springer Precision's sits back more to the rear of the frame more like glocks do, and the powder river is in between the stock position and Springers.

I chose to send mine into Springer Precision and am Very happy with it, they did an AWESOME job.
Others have chosen powder rivers and are very happy with them. It's all Personal preference. You decide.

I have a friend that has the powder river job, and mine has the springer installed kit, we BOTH like and Prefer the Springer installed kit over the other.
Unless you have the two to compare with each other, you will never know the difference, but once you've tried the springer installed trigger, I am pretty sure you would agree.

I am NOT knocking the powder river trigger at all, and that is not my intentions, but I Personally prefer the springer trigger over the other.

Springers Trigger job:



Powder river:



It's ultimately up to you.


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I feel kind of jipped. I was under the impression that this would be a pistol that was 'Competition Ready' out of the box!

So, I'm going to have to spend another $100+ on an already $650 pistol? What gives?
Advertising, perhaps.
 

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My current competition 4.5" Xdm was customized by Canyon Creek Custom. Rich does outstanding work and the pistol has served me exceptionally well for nearly 3 years. Yesterday, I received my 5.25 Xdm direct from Springer Precision and I'm equally impressed with the quality of their work. Upon comparing both triggers, my preference is for the Springer trigger job on the 5.25. Both are very smooth with minimal take up, a crisp break, almost zero over-travel and a very short reset. I prefer the Springer trigger because I have big hands, but short fingers. Their modification reduces the length-of-pull, moving the trigger further to the rear of the trigger guard. This makes it easier for me to maintain proper grip and finger placement on the trigger. This is an important distinction when choosing an XD/XDm trigger job especially if you have smaller hands. Rich at Canyon Creek uses the OEM parts for his modifications whereas Springer and Powder River use custom replacement parts. I haven't had the opportunity to try the highly regarded Powder River kit.

In short, the size of your hand and the way you mount the pistol could also be a determining factor in selecting a trigger mod. The Springer might appeal to those with smaller hands.

YMMV,
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