so, I know the whole which rifle should I pick thing has beeb beaten to death. However, I am down to 2 rifles that I am looking at. they are Howa Hogue Package and Savage 11FCXP3 Package in 308. I'm leaning toward the Howa, it's heavier, and I like a heavier gun, but I also really like the savage. I am looking at packages because I waant something I can shoot now, while I figure out a scope, unless I really like the scope the rifle comes with. price is pretty close at my local gun shop, so I am just looking for some input if any of you all have tried either of these rifles.