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My XD-M 10mm 4.5” is shooting low. Help?

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  1. May 19, 2020 #1
    jame

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    I’ve been shooting for over 40 years. I’ve been casting my own bullets and reloading for the better part of 35 years.

    I’m loading a hard cast Lee 175gr SWC over 10.5gr of Blue Dot.

    At 30 yards, shooting from a bench, I seem to be shooting about 6” low.

    I won’t for a second say that it’s not me, as I know most shooting problems are operator error.

    I haven’t shot much more than 20 rounds, feeling that I was just wasting time and ammo, without at least asking a few questions.

    Has anyone else had this issue? My Ruger GP100 and my CZ Shadow 2 are spot on. Help?
     
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    You’re using a “combat hold”? That is, the dot on the front sight covers the “bullseye”?
     
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    jame

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    To the best of my 60 year old yes ability, yes.

    A did also shoot 10 rounds standing at about 30 feet with relatively the same effect.
     
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    jame

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    You know, now rethinking, I can’t say for sure. I just line up and shoot, but thinking back, I used to load down a .357 for squirrel hunting, and I always shot with the sights lined up just below the eyes.

    After shooting for this long, it just becomes instinct, I don’t think much about it.
     
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    I’d try it again, making sure of your hold next time.
     
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    ^ That may be why....

    From the factory, XDms are supposed to be regulated as-follows:

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    Some Owner's Manuals may read instead:

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    Check your Manual to see what yours is supposed to be.

    ^ But that said, depending on ammo variability, the sights on your particular gun (i.e. the unique weapon that's in YOUR hands, not someone else's 10mm XDm 4.5), as well as how your eyes "see" the sights (which can even be affected by lighting), you may need to play with these factors a bit, to determine the hold you will need to use and/or what you may need to do in order to remediate the POA/POI difference towards your preference.

    Hope this helps!
     
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    Ffs how can there be two different answeers in same manual side by side? Really clears it up springfield.
     
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    ^ Production variances accounts for some of this. How that overlays with the ammo any one of us may choose to use is yet another.

    Also, just how different folks "see."

    None of our eyes/brain work in exactly the same way - what any one of us perceive to be one thing can be quite different for another.

    This is why shooters who are looking for that level of performance really need to go out there and benchmark this POA/POI for themselves (and remediate via hardware modifications, if-necessary), and furthermore be cognizant that both ammo and even lighting can make for noticeable and reproducible differences.
     
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    jame

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    Well, my manual is as the top one is written, which, to me, is as clear as mud.

    The included 10 meter target shows what the gun is capable of, but I have no idea what the technique might have been.

    I’ll figure this out, I’m certain, but I do find this a little frustrating. I have a fixed sight 3” GP100, a S&W 9mm Sheild, and a CZ Shadow 2 that are as simple as salt, point and click guns. Why this one shoots any differently would be beyond me.

    That said, I do intend to run a full box though the rig before I even consider any changes. If the problem still exists, I’ll tear it down, clean it up, snap it all back together and try again. If it’s still a problem after that, I’ll call Springfield.
     
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    I had an xds like that. To hit dead nuts I had to have the entire front sight sitting above the rear two. Strange looking down the gun that way, you can see the whole slide.

    Whether it was me or the firearm doesn’t matter to me, I got rid of it. I have plenty of other point and shoot guns, not going to hold any differently for 1 out of the whole lot.
     
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