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So I have been in the market for a shotgun and plan on joining a club range that is about 20 minutes ride from the house.

That got me to thinking, what if it is a beautiful day out, and I want ride my bike to go shoot the shotgun and the XDm at the range?

I haven't gotten as far as asking if that sort of thing is even legal yet, but I plan to ask at the local police station for their thoughts on the matter.

The vision I had in my head was some kind of mount to drop the shotgun into/onto that would be in line with the front forks, unloaded. Carry ammo in my saddlebag for it and my pistol which would be conceled carry or in it's case in the other bag. I remember seeing WWII motorcycles with rifle mounts, so this can't be an impossibility, just need to know if it would be plausable and legal.

OK, let me have it.
 

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Around here they would pull you over in a heartbeat whether its legal or not.
Not worth the trouble IMO.
good luck sir.
 

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Just did a brain mash session with my good friend, and I am on the road to making this happen. (so long as I don't have an issue with local law enforcement)

He has a spare set of locking removable brackets that I use to mount my saddlebags. (Ghostbrackets for those that know the brand) Mount a hard carry case to one side and an ammo can to the other, voila!

Let my frankenstein project begin!

More to come...
 

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In NC I have seen a shotgun transported in a scabard mounted to the front right fork. Police never give it a second look.

In NC you can transport a firearm with your vehicle as long as it is in plain sight..

Check your local laws...
 

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I haven't gotten as far as asking if that sort of thing is even legal yet, but I plan to ask at the local police station for their thoughts on the matter.
Be aware that not all LEOs understand the finer points of the law concerning firearms. You may very well get "their thoughts" on the matter, which may have little to do with the actual law.

I would also go online and check your state's statutes and see what they say. If that is too confusing, often times a state will have a state firearms association web site. If so, they often times have the carry and transport laws explained in lay terms for those that don't do law speak.

Just my 2 cents.
 

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I'm not sure where you are, Colorado here. I've mounted rifles across my bars and headed to the hills to shoot with no problems. Of course they were cased. I think some scabbard or open mounted options might give the sheeple and their herders (LEO's), the idea that you plan on using the gun while riding.
 

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I still need to make sure I am not going to be hassled of doing this, but here is what I have come up with so far. (Yea I need a hobby)

The bike in question. My windshield, sissy bar, and saddlebags are all removable so I can morph the bike to the type of riding I want to do. so using that mentality, I came up with an idea.



The bags are mounted by a set of Ghost Brackets. They bolt onto the flat backside of the bags and slide onto mounting pins of the bike and lock into place. The picture shows the side that faces the bike.




Mount them to a hard case box (this part I am still looking for) that can be used to transport ammo, etc. I always have the other side, but a guy has to look into the future where he will also want to mount a different long gun... I thought about just making a plate to mount the rest onto, but there will be a need for storage if I do the X2 configuration...

To the top of the aforementioned box, I will need to mount this bracket to accept the gun case. The main knob allows for the angle to be changed depending on how it all comes together. There are two anchor points for the case below so it doesn't "jump out" in rough roads, and those can also be used as locking points. I will need to solve the problem of undoing the knob and walking off with the whole assembly scenario.



The final peice I found would be a nice case that can be used as transport/carry bag once at my destination. There is the ability to lock the case to satisify the "lack of easy access" issue.

 

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What kind of shotgun are you thinking about? If you buy one that's easy to break down, I'd probably go with a high-quality backpack with padded dividers.

You might also consider something like the XL Sat-Com Bag from CountyComm.com



 

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Mud, the gun I am looking to order this Friday will be the Mossberg 590A1 PN: 53693 Unfortunately, this doesn't fold up well.


To be honest, I would rather find a way to mount it than strap it to my back. The thought of anything that would shift and take my focus from the road makes me a bit squeemish. I've alrerady had enough time spent pipcking up the peices I avoid it where I can.
 
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Right, that is what I was thinking. A regular rifle/shotgun soft case... just sling it diagonally across the body like in Mud's post. I don't know how much you need to bend on your bike, but it should be possible. Alternatively, if space is tight, you could try removing the barrel as someone else suggested. However, if its a 18.5" regular pump style shotgun with 4+1 or 5+1 capacity, removing the barrel might not save you too much space, unless you can remove the magazine tube as well. I don't know fi you can normally do that.

You live in NH, though, eh? I thought you guys were very gun friendly, second only to Vermont.
 

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Well, I'm guessing that gun will garner some attention. It looks evil! :lol:
I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I thought it looked "rugged and capable". But yes, I would suspect that it would draw unwanted attention.

Right, that is what I was thinking. A regular rifle/shotgun soft case... just sling it diagonally across the body like in Mud's post. I don't know how much you need to bend on your bike, but it should be possible. Alternatively, if space is tight, you could try removing the barrel as someone else suggested. However, if its a 18.5" regular pump style shotgun with 4+1 or 5+1 capacity, removing the barrel might not save you too much space, unless you can remove the magazine tube as well. I don't know fi you can normally do that.

You live in NH, though, eh? I thought you guys were very gun friendly, second only to Vermont.
Slinging something over my shoulder on my bike is something I wish to avoid. I live in a wooded area and I have come across deer, porcupines, skunks, turkeys, and other assorted critters in the road often. Hell, me and my girl saw a black bear tearing into someones bird feeder just off the road last week. If I need to make evasive maneuvers, the last thing I need to worry about is something on my back becoming unsettled or shifting limiting my ability to react.

The other thing my solution provides, is protection of what I am carrying. In time I can see me wanting a rifle. Mount a decent scope on there and the last thing you want is a random rock from the car/truck in front of me slamming into it, or getting caught in a downpour. I prefer to have the assurance of a hard case protection, especially if I want to travel longer distances.

The shotgun model I am getting also is an 8+1, with an overall legnth of 39.25 inches and a barrel legnth of 20". The mag tube is just as long as the barrel, so that would have to come off along with it. I can see breaking down the gun to carry getting old fast. I would rather wait until I get home in a controled environment to tear my equipment down where the worst that could happen is I have to move the couch to find a stray part.

I started my personal investigation of the state laws for transportation of firearms. Being that I already received my concealed carry license, I am covered for my pistol loaded or not according to the vehicle laws. So far it looks like I am going to be OK if I transport the shotgun unloaded and locked in it's case.

Quote from the website Frequently Asked Questions about NH Gun Laws | Pro-Gun New Hampshire ;

Q: Do I need a license to carry a gun?
A: Yes, but only for these two purposes (per RSA 159:4): (1) to carry a loaded handgun concealed upon the person, other than in your home or place of business (where you can do so without a license); and (2) to have a loaded handgun in a vehicle (whether the handgun is concealed or not).
I’m not sure if riding a motorcycle or bicycle is considered being “in a vehicle”; maybe your lawyer can answer that, but as far as I’m concerned, it’s always wise to take a conservative approach to these questions.
Note that you may not have a loaded rifle or shotgun in a vehicle, by the way (per fish and game law RSA 207:7 – where “vehicle” means a motor vehicle, aircraft, or powered or towed boat, but apparently not an unpowered rowboat or canoe).

Or as it is written in the actual law;

Section 207:7

207:7 Hunting From Motor Vehicle, OHRV, Snowmobile, Boat, or Aircraft. –
I. No person shall take or attempt to take wild birds or wild animals from a motor vehicle, OHRV, snowmobile as defined in RSA 215-C:1, boat, aircraft or other craft propelled by mechanical power.
II. No person shall have or carry, in or on a motor vehicle, OHRV, snowmobile, or aircraft, whether moving or stationary, a cocked crossbow, a loaded rifle or loaded shotgun, or a rifle or shotgun with a cartridge in a magazine or clip attached to the gun.
III. No person shall have in or on a boat or other craft while being propelled by mechanical power, or in a boat or other craft being towed by a boat or other craft propelled by mechanical power, a cocked crossbow, a loaded rifle or loaded shotgun, or a rifle or shotgun with a cartridge in a magazine or clip attached to the gun.
IV. The provisions of this section shall not apply to law enforcement officers carrying guns in the line of duty.
Source. 1935, 124:1. 1937, 188:4. RL 241:6. 1947, 47:1. 1949, 16:1. RSA 207:7. 1969, 11:1. 1971, 308:1. 1983, 449:19, eff. July 1, 1983. 2003, 35:3, eff. July 1, 2003. 2005, 210:6, eff. July 1, 2006.

Section 207:7-a

207:7-a Disabled Persons. –
I. RSA 207:7 shall not apply to a disabled person who is suffering from paraplegia or who is suffering from the loss of, or the loss of the use of, both lower extremities and who has obtained a current license to hunt; provided, however, that such person must first obtain from the executive director a special permit entitling said person to hunt while using a motor vehicle, not to include boats with motor attached or aircraft. For purposes of this section, "motor vehicle'' shall include off highway recreational vehicles and all terrain vehicles as defined in RSA 215-A:1, and snowmobiles as defined in RSA 215-C:1. No loaded firearm, shotgun, or rifle shall be carried or transported with a cartridge in the chamber, magazine, or clip attached to the firearm, shotgun, or rifle, while the vehicle is in motion. The executive director may issue such a permit upon application in person or upon documentary proof of such disability by a licensed hunter. Such permit shall be carried upon the person of the permittee while hunting and shall be produced for inspection upon the demand of any law enforcement officer. A $10 administrative fee shall be charged once, upon application to the executive director for such permit.
II. The permit shall be perpetual. The executive director shall retain the records for such permits for a period not less than 7 years. Loss or destruction of the permit after 7 years shall obligate the permittee to re-establish eligibility.
Source. 1957, 188:1. 1963, 81:1. 1988, 95:1, eff. June 17, 1988. 1996, 202:1, eff. Jan. 1, 1997. 2005, 210:7, eff. July 1, 2006.

Section 207:7-b

207:7-b Penalty. – Any person who violates a provision of RSA 207:7 shall be guilty of a violation and shall be guilty of an additional violation for each wild bird or animal taken or possessed contrary to said provision.
Source. 1959, 32:1. 1977, 588:35, eff. Sept. 16, 1977.

I am not disabled or a LEO so unloaded and in a case is a safe bet.

Now, to solve the problem of a container with a flat secured top to mount the "holster" onto....
 

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Motorcycles and bikes are considered "vehicles". Hell you can get a DUI on a bike. All vehicle laws apply in most states.
 

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I still need to make sure I am not going to be hassled of doing this, but here is what I have come up with so far. (Yea I need a hobby)

The bike in question. My windshield, sissy bar, and saddlebags are all removable so I can morph the bike to the type of riding I want to do. so using that mentality, I came up with an idea.



The bags are mounted by a set of Ghost Brackets. They bolt onto the flat backside of the bags and slide onto mounting pins of the bike and lock into place. The picture shows the side that faces the bike.




Mount them to a hard case box (this part I am still looking for) that can be used to transport ammo, etc. I always have the other side, but a guy has to look into the future where he will also want to mount a different long gun... I thought about just making a plate to mount the rest onto, but there will be a need for storage if I do the X2 configuration...

To the top of the aforementioned box, I will need to mount this bracket to accept the gun case. The main knob allows for the angle to be changed depending on how it all comes together. There are two anchor points for the case below so it doesn't "jump out" in rough roads, and those can also be used as locking points. I will need to solve the problem of undoing the knob and walking off with the whole assembly scenario.



The final peice I found would be a nice case that can be used as transport/carry bag once at my destination. There is the ability to lock the case to satisify the "lack of easy access" issue.

Nice bike Rip! I have transported mine on my bike with barrel and receiver disassembled in my range bag several times with it strapped to the back seat. Nothing fancy, but it hasn't fallen off and nobody knows what's in it. I lock the ammo in my saddle bag. Legal transport.
 
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