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I've heard people say that the .357 sig XDs are the most accurate. What's the smallest groups you've gotten from your stock XD? I'm talking from a rest or something. I hardly ever get to shoot my XD from a bench so I'll have to get back to you on my groups.

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Here is a group from about 10 yards, firing a ported XD-9 Service with Geco 9mm ammo. Shooting from a table and used a paper towel roll as a rest.
Not bad and probably could do better.
 

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the XD357 is the most reliable, not sure about accurate. the 357 sig round has a pretty flat trajectory though
 

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Personally, I don't buy any of the "Variant X is most accurate/reliable" stuff. I don't believe there's convincing evidence that one variant is significantly better than another. Moreover, everyone shoots differently, even from a rest, so operator error contributes greatly to results, probably much more so than the specific variant that they're shooting. Let's not even throw ammo selection into the equation; it only muddies the waters further.

Until someone with the proper resources does a controlled test or an obvious pattern of negative results develops, I'll stick with my beliefs.
 

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Personally, I don't buy any of the "Variant X is most accurate/reliable" stuff. I don't believe there's convincing evidence that one variant is significantly better than another. Moreover, everyone shoots differently, even from a rest, so operator error contributes greatly to results, probably much more so than the specific variant that they're shooting. Let's not even throw ammo selection into the equation; it only muddies the waters further.

Until someone with the proper resources does a controlled test or an obvious pattern of negative results develops, I'll stick with my beliefs.

Huh??

Ever hear of a ransom rest???? Manufacturers must supply data, esp when going for a military contract. If the army wants a sub moa rifle, they get it.

I've put 1" groups with my XD custom, 9mm. speer Gold dot at 25 yards, yes yards.. This all be myself, placing my arm on my shooting bag and the pistol into sandbag. As far as one XD being more accurate than the other, find the best ammo for each and test. Reloads would be best, light target loads for the highest accuracy.
 

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the XD357 is the most reliable, not sure about accurate. the 357 sig round has a pretty flat trajectory though
I find them all to be reliable. all the cheap ammo I have shot and not 1 problem. I have shot the .357, 40, and 9 I find them all to be about the same, ACCURATE. I dont know about the new 45 havent had one in my hand yet. now if i can just get my groups on paper without using a rest
 

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I can hit bowling pins at 25 yds free handed with my 40 service.I use wwb for target most of the time and sometimes cci blazer brass.As far as being the most accurate a 9mm would be more accurate shooting free handed fast but not sure off the bench.As far as a 357 XD being more reliable how do you figure ? ive got somewhere in the 5000 rds out of my 40 XD and a friend has an hs 2000 9mm thiers no telling how many rds have be put through it
 

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I can typically shoot < 2" goups @ 10yds per 12 rds w/ my xd 40 service, two handed without a rest. It is not unusual for me to get a flyer or two to push me out to a 3" group per 12 rds. Statistically, if I am shooting sub 2" groups and get a flyer sometimes, my gun is probably capable of shooting about a 2" group.
 

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Wow, I would have to say that shooting ability would contribute far more to the accuracy of a weapon, than the caliber. Unless of course you are talking about muzzle flip, recoil etc. that may hamper re-acquiring your target. I own a few handguns and after the break in period and then getting to "know" my handgun by running a few thousand rounds through it...I can say 3" groups @ 20 yards is normal, with the occasional stray round.
 

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The first time I really went to the range and used up two boxes of WWB, I managed to shoot one target (3x5 index card with an X marked in the middle) that measured 1 3/8 inches from outside of hole to outside of hole at 9 yds (15 rounds total at this target). All of the groups I shot stayed within the 3x5 card. two handed modified weaver (I think) with my duty XD40. I haven't even tried some of the "accurate" loads.

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I've put less than 100 rounds through my XD-9 4" and in my first range session I shot a five shot 2.5" group at 25 yards off hand. Probably not repeatable without some more practice but I was pleased.
 

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****.. at 25 yards I feel good if I keep 8 out of 10 rounds in the 5 ring!?

Here is 25 FEET.. 10 rounds from a rest...



Standing, strong hand from the same distance.. 30 rounds I think...



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I don't have any of my XD-357 targets but this is one shot with my Browning BDA 9mm standing and free hand from 25 feet. My XD-357 targets would have 1 to 3 of 10 shots just outside of that two inch square. I tend to flinch a little bit more with the 357sig.

 

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Ever hear of a ransom rest???? Manufacturers must supply data, esp when going for a military contract. If the army wants a sub moa rifle, they get it.
Yes, I've heard of a Ransom Rest. Unfortunately, they don't make grip inserts for the XD, and I think you missed the point any way.

I'm not saying that all guns are equally accurate. A Caspian 1911 is definitely more accurate than a Beretta Tomcat, but they are completely different guns. The distinction is not so easy to make with minor variations in the same basic platform, such as the XD.

Can you or anyone else say definitively that the XD-[insert caliber/variant] is more accurate than any other XD? Can you say that the XD-[insert caliber/variant] is more reliable than any other XD? We're not comparing apples and oranges; this is more like granny smith vs. red delicious.

You mentioned government contracts, but somehow overlooked the last line of my post: "Until someone with the proper resources does a controlled test... I'll stick with my beliefs" Testing for government contracts certainly meets my criteria, but where are the published results? Did the US Army choose a specific XD for issue to troops? Did they even test the general XD platform? To the best of my knowledge, they haven't done either, but I'd love to be proven wrong.
 

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I did find one load that shoots pretty close at 50 yards, with my XD40; the Remington "100 pack" 180 JHP's. They didn't make a bad showing considering that I was just shooting off a bare benchtop, with the sun low behind the target.

Target was a B27-R, and the stick-on dot is 3”. The cluster on the left is 4 ¼”… wanna guess whose fault that flyer on the right was, that made the overall group 8”? Well, it wasn’t the XD’s fault, that’s for sure!

 

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Speaking from my own personal observations, my XD9 Tactical seems to be slightly less accurate than my HK USP Compact 40, though again that's just my own feeling from shooting them both.

As far as one caliber being inherently more accurate than another, I'd be surprised if that were the case.
 

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I've put 1" groups with my XD custom, 9mm. speer Gold dot at 25 yards, yes yards.. This all be myself, placing my arm on my shooting bag and the pistol into sandbag. As far as one XD being more accurate than the other, find the best ammo for each and test. Reloads would be best, light target loads for the highest accuracy.
Same here. I've even put shots though the same hole. I'm a good shot though. Not everybody has the same skill. It's more about skill than the firearm. Also it's how the gun feels to the shooter. If your comfortable with it, you will shoot well. People say the .40 isn't that accurate. Well, you would have to go to the range with me so I can prove you wrong.
 

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I did this at ten yards with my XD9 and a friends Sig 226. One mag each (20 rounds total). The bottom most holes were done with the Sig (I fired it right after the XD, so it took me a few shots to get used to the diffrent trigger).
 

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I wanna figure out what XD to get next, I still don't have sub or tactical yet so maybe I'll check those out. I'd really like to get another service model but in .40 or .357 this time. I'm just trying to get a feel for which I'd like better.

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