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What are the pros-n-cons?
Anybody went any distance with these shorter M1As? 400yds?
Who's got the prices?
 

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They are both M1As. The only con to me is the price of ammo.

My Squad is very capable of shooting 500 meters with iron sites. Thats close to 547 yards. I am sure any Socom can do the same in a trained shooters hands. I have put rounds through a Socom 16, and Socom II but never enough to put it to a long distance test.

We sell the Squad around 1450 to 1500, and the Socom II around 1700. For the price I would tell you to get Scout Squad, mainly because I have no use for the rails, or if you really want the shorter barrel look into the Socom 16. Nothing wrong with the II, like I said, its an M1A you cant go wrong.
 

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these prices depend on the distributer of your store. I dont want to hear any arguments on how our prices are too high or too low LOL, I get tired of hearing that sort of thing.
 

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I'm leaning toward the squad simply because I like the woodgrain. I also have no use for the rails. Not much weight difference in the two either.
I want my optics closer to my eye, like on the M-21.
 

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I bought my 1st M1A a couple of weeks ago. I was having a hard time deciding between the scout or socom 16. I got the scout and could not be happier. Well maybe cheaper 308!!!!!!!!!!
 

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the walnut stock is nice, for some reason it contains more heat then the fiberglass, most likely because the fiberglass is able to breathe easier. The walnut also swells and flexs more. Either way you will have a great rifle. My standard has a walnut stock, my squad has the fiberglass.
 

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the walnut stock is nice, for some reason it contains more heat then the fiberglass, most likely because the fiberglass is able to breathe easier. The walnut also swells and flexs more. Either way you will have a great rifle. My standard has a walnut stock, my squad has the fiberglass.
You have both??
Now I'm jealous!!!:(
 

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you should have seen my M21 I used in the Army.... freakin sick, that may be the next one I get, or the Socom 16. I shall see.
 

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Are they getting away from the Rem 700s and the Win 70s? I like the idea of the M-21 or M-25. I like the idea of having the option of a semi-auto follow up shot. Manually operating the bolt takes me away from my sight picture.
 

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Say, how do you like your mini 14. Accuracy? how about the larger mini? is that 7.62X39
I had a mini 14 (.223) 20 years ago. Couldnt hit crap after the barrel warmed up! Really, 6moa was a only a dream.
 

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I wouldnt say that it is the most accurate, but it isnt that bad as people make it out to be. I actually do fairly well with it. My mini 14 has taken down a lot of coyotes. Same with the Mini 30, and yes it is the 7.62x39. Both fun rifles, and real work horses, definatly ranch guns.
 

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Couldnt hit crap after the barrel warmed up! Really, 6moa was a only a dream.
I've read that on multiple occasions about the accuracy getting worse after the barrel is hot.

I'm in the same predictament. I can't decide if I want to get the M1A Socom II, Scout, or a Remington 700 SPS Tactical rifles. I might be able to get both the Remington and one of the M1A's. Can't decide though. I'd like to fix a scope to the M1A.
 

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the 700 tac is so freakin hard to find in .308. I ended up going with the 700 police, freakin love it. If you go with the M1A I would recomend the Squad. I freakin love mine. I dont put any optics on my M1As lol, I prefer them as the are, straight up cold, heavy iron battle rifles. LOL
 

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The large aperture and thick tritium front sight of the SOCOM series doesn't lend itself to good accuracy past ~ 100 yards. in fact, the front sight will be larger than most bullseyes at 100. If you plan on scoping it, that may be another story. Then again, if you're thinking of magnified optics, I would go with the longer barrel so you can take advantage of the increased velocity.
 

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I debated between a DPMS AR in .308 and a Springfield Socom also in .308. My buddy got the Socom. It is a hoot to shoot, but a pain to scope. He had a Springfield Armory scope mount installed and scope mounted and the SA scope mount shot loose after about 150 rounds. My buddy ended up going with an extended eye relief scope forward mounted on the rail. I haven't shot it since he got the new set up. I like my DPMS .308, but that is a whole different ball of wax compared to the Socom. Anyway, the Socom is fun to shoot, the comp really takes a lot off the recoil. The current Gun Tests compared a Socom II, Armalite AR10, and Ruger mini chambered in 6.8. Of those three, the Socom II came out on top.

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