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Lube: Grease or Oil?

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Which is better and why?
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They both have their benefits and detriments. There is no "better". Like with everything else in life, it depends on what you are doing, and what you want out of it.

For the occasional shooter, oil works perfectly well and has for a LONG time.

Most people will use oil like Hoppe's or Remoil (or similar). It's easy and cheap, but it eventually migrates away from where you put it. Gravity will get you every time. It is also less cold sensitive.

Some like greases because of the feel, and the fact it doesn't evaporate or run. But gets pushed out of contact areas. Grease can thiken in cold weather.

Some like products like Slide Glide that bridge the gap between the two, but are harder to find. They sometimes offer multiple thicknesses if lube to tailor to the type of weapon or it's purpose.

Still others use non firearm related products like Mobil1 even. There may be issues with that though from additives in the oil and long term exposure to skin.
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Still others use non firearm related products like Mobil1 even. There may be issues with that though from additives in the oil and long term exposure to skin.

I think the bad part of motor oil and prolonged skin contact is with USED motor oil and not with fresh synthetic motor oil. There are no other warnings on the labels of motor oil here at my house (I only use Synthetic Mobil 1).

So if it lubes, it should be good to go and when you consider how often it gets swapped out, it cant be that bad really.
What weight of Mobil1 do you use?

On using motor oil for the lubricant, would a 5w-30 work less effectively than say a 15w-40?
I have no idea. I didnt say I used motor oil but I was just saying that I didnt see it being bad. I personally dont like the smell of it.

For something like this where its not heavy, I would want the lightest, thinnest oil out there.. 0-20 or just plain 0.
If you want to use your gun for sport, then make sure you get a racing oil. Every bit helps right?

:p
The rails is about the only place on an XD / XDm where a grease type lubricant might be a benefit over oil type lubes, although oils do work fine here also. For normal environments, something like SIL-GLYDE (-20 to 400F) can work well as a grease type lube. Available at NAPA automotive supply. No odor and light film does not migrate or change consistency. Does not dry out in storage. Most all other lube points on these pistols work fine with most light oils. The synthetics do not evaporate or gum after extended periods. Get one with PTFE (teflon) additives. Any carry piece is better with a non-migrating type lube. Just be very sparing on any lube application. Dry film silicone sprays are good for magazines (no wet residue to collect dirt. Automotive wax works well for mags also. If you use WD40 for water displacement, follow this up with regular solvent cleaning and normal lube (WD40 will gum after a short period). Sticking with a lube designed for guns will mostly ensure there are no damaging solvents present. Use automotive lubes if you know your product and safe results on poltmer frames.
In extreme environments of very cold or wet and humid maybe a use for going with special lubes or shorter intervals.

Highly polished parts will not retain oils (stay wetted) as well as a higher viscosity grease film lube.
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It is gun grease for me. Everywhere, use as directed. I will use a light coat of CLP down the barrel and swab patch out until dry.

Works for me, smooth as silk! ;)
Go to a bike store and by you some Red Line dry lube. I use it on most of my guns. You can put it on liberally w/out hurting anything and it turns to a haze after you apply it. Then when the gun gets hot while firing it becomes the lubricant you need.

I actually read about this on the Bersa Forum and have been quite happy with it myself. I use it mostly on my XD, Bersas and Sig. I still use Mobile 1 on my 1911's but have used it on my 1911's and not had any problems.

Just my 2¢ worth
i've heard of shooter's choice from vids on youtube...but i don't know if it is needed on an XD...however i'm interested in the difference between (as well as similarites) between Red line and shooter's choice...Any feedback guys??
Personally I use Slide Glide grease and a little Gun butter oil..
I wouldn't use firearm lube in my truck motor, therefore I wouldn't use motor oil on my firearms..................YMMV
For those that use motor oil on their firearms, I say, whatever works for you is cool with me...


A lot of info in these threads...;)

http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/genera...ng/161128-what-do-you-use-lube-your-guns.html

http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/xd-gunsmithing-maintenance/143856-end-all-all-grease-vs-oil-thread.html

http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/xd-gunsmithing-maintenance/159362-pros-cons-brian-enos-slide-glide.html

http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/general-sa-xd-xd-m-talk/117531-who-all-uses-grease-there-gun.html

http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/general-sa-xd-xd-m-talk/82946-grease.html

That should be enough reading for now...;)
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Personally I use Slide Glide grease and a little Gun butter oil..
I wouldn't use firearm lube in my truck motor, therefore I wouldn't use motor oil on my firearms..................YMMV
For those that use motor oil on their firearms, I say, whatever works for you is cool with me...


A lot of info in these threads...;)

http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/genera...ng/161128-what-do-you-use-lube-your-guns.html

http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/xd-gunsmithing-maintenance/143856-end-all-all-grease-vs-oil-thread.html

http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/xd-gunsmithing-maintenance/159362-pros-cons-brian-enos-slide-glide.html

http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/general-sa-xd-xd-m-talk/117531-who-all-uses-grease-there-gun.html

http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/general-sa-xd-xd-m-talk/82946-grease.html

That should be enough reading for now...;)
Yea ... Now I don't have to repeat myself !!!
I once bought into all the hype and overpriced crap to maintain my firearms ... Now it's a simple situation ... Lithium Grease, big tube for a few dollars, and Mobil 1 for the places where oil is better.

Some places get a mixture of the two :wink:

Total investment, less than $10 and it will last me the rest of my life.
Thanks for the links
Slide Glide and CLP for Lube and Kroil oil for barrel cleaning.
Been using them on 1911's for years I will use them on my XDm as well.
Thanks for the links
Yo welcome..;)
I've had a 2oz tub (very small tub) of Slide Glide for over 2 or 3 years.
It is still over 3/4 full.
I just use a cheap little brush to apply it...

Even though my Kimber manual stated not to use grease on the rails, I did it anyway..
My pistols, all brands, run better with grease on the rails than oil.
As stated before, the grease will not evaporate as easy as the oil does..
I use TW25B grease on high contact areas - primarily rails. Light oil inside and outside of the barrel.
As to the toxicity of Mobil1, looking at an MSDS for it, it is minimally toxic, and will not cause problems under normal use. USED motor oil from gasoline engines is a potential carcinogen. I'm going to start using 10w-30 on my XD and see how it works. The last carbine match I went to, I found out some prominent people are using motor oil on their AR15s. I've always used Breakfree CLP for my firearms without a problem, and will continue to use it for cleaning, but I've just gotta give the motor oil a try!
-Dan
I have guns that specifically say 'no grease', so I just use oil... Hoppe's, Breakfree, RemOil, whatever is convenient at the time.
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