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I called ATG and they have no idea when they will get it.
Dose anybody know ware i can get it.
 

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ford7379trucks, what made you decide on the 180 grain vs the 165? (I don't use either one, so I'm just wondering.)

Compared against all other loads the .40 165 seems to come out on top in terms of muzzle energy and has the flattest trajectory:
(pick up to 7 rounds to compare)

LE - Tactical HST

I compared these:
.40 165 (P40HST3): 1130 fps, 468 ft-lbs, -1" drop @ 50 yds
.40 180 (P40HST1):1010 fps, 408 ft-lbs, , -1.4" drop @ 50 yds
9mm 147 +P (P9HST4): 1050 fps, 360 ft-lbs, -1.2" drop @ 50 yds
45 230 +P (P45HST1):950 fps, 461 ft-lbs, -1.6" drop @ 50 yds

 

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I haven't been able to find anyone online that has the 165 or 180gr .40 HST in-stock. I ordered some 155gr from Tactical Defense Solutions. I haven't seen any test data on the 155gr though, as most of the FBI etc. tests were done with the 165gr and/or 180gr HST's in .40.

Any opinons on the 155gr HST .40?

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Doesn't the 180 gr penetrate better than the 165 gr? The Gold Dot 40 Short Barrel only comes in 180 gr.
It would penetrate better if it were FMJ, but being heavier and JHP, it's harder to accellerate and therefore has less velocity which means less kinetic energy.
 

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I did a search on Federal HST ammunition reviews and found a page where they tested different grains of HST (and other ammunition) through different media and the HST 155's, based on their test results, was the best performer. If I can find the page again I'll post the link.
 

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My bad. They were referring to the 147 grain 9mm, not 155 grain .40.
 

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Doesn't the 180 gr penetrate better than the 165 gr? The Gold Dot 40 Short Barrel only comes in 180 gr.
According to these tests, the heavier bullet penetrates further even though it's slightly slower:
https://www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9140

Borrowed from that thread:
DoubleTap .40 S&W Penetration / expansion
135gr. Nosler JHP @ 1375fps - 12.10" / .72"
155gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1275fps - 13.00" / .76"
165gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1200fps - 14.0" / .70"
180gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1100fps - 14.75" / .68"

200gr XTP @ 1050fps - 17.75" / .59"
But the difference is negligible, I guess one should buy a box of each and see which one feels better.
 

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40 cal hst ammo is 23.00 a box!!! I didnt realize it was so expensive.
considering you get 50, not really


i have a box of 155gr and 180gr HSTs and have now become thoroughly confused on which to use lol. can anyone help clear up the differences for me? im somewhat of a noob when it comes to grain count.
 

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I will be getting a few cases of the 180gr HST in stock in the next few days.
 

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I will be getting a few cases of the 180gr HST in stock in the next few days.
do you sell ammo. im still looking for 180 hst
 

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I scheduled UPS Freight to pick the ammo up on Wednesday. I hope to get it on Friday or maybe Monday.

http://www.prestostore.com/cgi-bin/link.pl?ref=hotpig27&pd=289654
 

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thanks i will be ordering when available
 

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what happend to to ammo? iv been checking the site and it went from arriving any day to out of stock.
Yes it did. Everyone wanted to buy 10 or more boxes. The 9mm lasted a little longer, like 12 hours before it was gone. Ranger T ammo was the same way.

I had to work 16 hour shifts this week to get everything shipped before closing next week for vacation.
 

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any idea when you will get more
 
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