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Kahr CM-9 Range time

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Been a while since I posted on this forum, but I just picked up a Kahr CM-9 and figured I would share my first range trip with it.

Shot about 50 rounds on this target, shot 200 rounds total. Great gun, no problems what so ever. Still need a bit of range time with it as you can see:

 
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Discussion starter · #6 ·
Nice.
I have the same problem when changing from my single action XD to my double action pf9 I group my shots to the left a bit. It takes some getting used to the DA trigger. If I concentrate on a slow consistent, straight back trigger pull I hit dead center.
Yeah, hopefully I can get to the range a little more often so I can work on going back and forth so I can get a feel for each trigger type. After that than I have to get used to the Bodyguard 380's trigger, put another 200 through it on a different target and it was even worse left.

Looks good. The Kahr makes a superb pistol.
Yes they do, I love this little pistol so far.
 
Discussion starter · #8 ·
I just ordered a CM9, actually! Looks good, I hope my CM9 works out well too :)

May I ask what ammo you shot through it?

Also, +1 on the needing to concentrate with longer trigger pulls. With a shorter trigger, you can sometimes get away with a bit more "slapping." Longer DA pulls will show you the error of your ways (assuming the trigger pull itself is smooth, otherwise a gritty, crappy DA trigger doesn't reveal much except how bad the trigger is).

Switching from my XD to my Diamondback 380 took some getting used to. Whenever I'd switch back to my XD, I'd have the pistol going off unexpectedly (downrange, of course), because the trigger would break far, far, far before I was expecting it to. But with practice, I can go back and forth a bit more competently now. But still, only practice helps.

I bought my CM9 to replace my DB380, though, so I'll have to start practicing with the CM9 once it comes in.

I'm looking forward to joining the Kahr family :)
You won't be disappointed!

I was using Federal 115gr FMJ. Walmart for 10 bucks per 50 rounds.
 
Discussion starter · #10 · (Edited)
Could be double taps, but a few look like they keyholed?
hmm, I see what your seeing in the picture but I never thought keyholeing so I did't look for it while shooting. hmm. I'll go with double taps, and look for it more when I put the rest of the ammo I bought through it. I wanted to shoot this gun a little more before I put it in rotation so this will be something I look at before deciding to.
 
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Shot another 100 rounds today, here is my last target of the day at 21 feet. I was running late from lunch and was rushing so this is the only picture that came out well enough to see. Still shooting the Federal 115gr FMJ.

Oh and no sign of keyholeing this time around.

 
Discussion starter · #15 · (Edited)
So it's been about a week or so since I got to the range again. I finished off the stack of ammo that I had bought with the gun. 400 rounds total I believe of the Federal.



Same old same old by now I guess.

However I figured I would put the ammo that I have been carrying since it came out. Hornady Critical Defense...



Not good ... This ammo was great out of my XDSC and Glock 26 .. fails miserably out of this pistol. Out of six full magazines the last round of the mag just didn't have the oomph needed to lock the slide back and I had three jams and two FTE... Guess the gun just can't run that round reliably... Looks like I am going to have to find a good defense round that fires reliably before I start carrying this pistol.
 
Discussion starter · #17 ·
Good damn thing you found that out regarding your carry ammo. Give Gold Dot a try.

I'm glad you posted. I'm considering a CM9 very hard. Seems like a lot of guys on here are getting them.

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Yes I was a little shocked that I pretty much shot my whole collection of the ammo I had stocked up just to see if it could be worked out. No such luck but oh well. I have heard good things about Gold Dot so I will probably go that route.

You will not be disappointed if you do decide to go with the CM-9. IMHO the gun is gold.
 
Discussion starter · #19 ·
There is a lot of bad press out there with the Critical Defense not feeding, having bad primers that won't ignight, and your low power issue as well.

I have only used it in .380 in a Ruger LCP, but it has been totally reliable there.

Glad you tested it at the range, it is what ALL people should do before carrying it for defense.
Might try some Federal HST or Winchester Ranger-T, CorBon DPX.
I had no idea about the bad press surrounding that ammo. will have to look into that. Thanks for the recommendations too, will look into those as well and see which runs the best.
 
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So been shooting this gun about once a week since I got it ... probably have upwards to 1000 rounds through it at least. Shoots like a champ and I solved the SD ammo selection. It eats up Winchester ammo so that is what I use now.

However I wanted to post this picture on here for some one to take a look at. The front of the frame seems to bulge out to the outside and I don't know if it was like this from the get go, if it's supposed to be like this or if something is wrong with the frame. So someone who has a CM9 can you look to see if it's the same or do I have a bad frame mold? Could it be dangerous if it is bad?

Here is the picture:

 
Discussion starter · #22 ·
hmmm, always field strip, study, clean and lube from the get go. does it bulge out weird from the slide when the slide is on?
Yeah I always strip and clean a new gun, don't know why I didn't really pay much attention to the frame for deformities. I mean I clearly remember checking everything that I could think of. Especially cause out of the box it was nearly impossible to pull the slide back. At first I thought something may be stuck because the first few times I couldn't get the slide all the way back to save my life. After 300 or so rounds it loosened some. It is still really stiff but I can get the slide back on the first try now at least.

But to answer your question, yes a little bit ... here is a picture:

does this on both sides

 
Discussion starter · #24 ·
I have looked for a top view photo with no luck and watched videos on youtube of people dissembling the gun, can't really tell with most of the ones out there. That's why I posted here, I know a few people have posted on here recently that they picked one up and was hoping they could let me know if they had similar bulges in the frame.
 
Discussion starter · #26 ·
i found one picture on google that def shows that the frame tapers out like that, so all good! keep shootin! pickin up a pm9 friday curious to see on that if the frame tapers out.
Your search fu is much better than mine.

Thanks for the help! :D

::Wipes sweat off brow::
 
Discussion starter · #28 ·
Range Report/Review: Kahr PM9

heres a link with the picture, its the first picture you see in that review write up, you can tell even though the slide is on that the frame contours somewhat in that area.

a pistol can take some heat in that area so i can see your concern, waiting for another member who actually owns one to confirm.
can see the contour pretty clearly, the way it curves away from the gun. Those are some nice pictures too ... next time I'll think about looking at forum reviews, Google images didn't even show me those.

Thanks again.
 
Discussion starter · #32 ·
my PM-9 bulges like that too, it's normal.
Cool, glad to hear it.

My PM9 bulges the same way......500+ rounds and it doesn't care for Critical Defense either, it's good to go with Gold Dots but is most accurate with Golden Sabers...all my XDs are most accurate with the GD ...... FWIW
Cool +2 ... I was starting to freak cause I love this gun and I was going to hate life if it turned out to be defective.

Glad to hear it likes the Golden Sabers, mine didn't like them. Out of the 5 types of ammo I shot (Federal HST, Winchester PDX1, CorBon, Gold Dots, Golden Sabers) the best was winchester pdx1 with the gold dots a close second, so I have those sitting on the ammo shelf now.

Good to hear your Kahr likes the Golden Sabres.

I ran some recently acquired Golden Sabre 124 gr through my PM9 this past Monday. I was surprised at how poorly it did. I suppose it could have been me, but the Gold Dot 125 gr I shot from my new Ruger LCR, at the same distance, was less than half the spread. The trigger isn't that much different between the two. I tried the same Golden Sabre rounds in my XD9 and got the same poor spread. I can shoot a ragged hole with the same XD9 and my practice rounds (my reloads).

Time to look for some new carry ammo.
Yeah it's a bummer, I have used Critical Defense since it hit the shelves and it ran great through my G26 and XDSC but the Kahr just didn't like them. I guess having to find a new carry ammo is a good excuse to hit up the range, right?
 
Discussion starter · #38 ·
Yes, CM9 bulges like that too. It is normal. I thought it was weird the first time too, but yup, perfectly normal.

I've been using Federal HST 147gr in it. I haven't had any malfunctions. Of course, I mean for carry. I definitely cannot afford to use HST as range ammo :) . I have shot about 70 rounds of the HST with zero issues.
It was weird when I first noticed it.

I can't afford to shoot PDX1 as range ammo, even at walmart prices of 20 bucks ... that's still a dollar a round.

also from your top view photo you can see the thin metal guides toward the front of the frame are perfectly straight yet the frame contours so its def designed like that, also just picked up my pm9 yesturday and it def contours like that aswell.
Now that you say that I can see it ... hmm.

i havent shot my pm9 yet but it feels so tight!!! there is no slop anywhere! all ive ever owned were glocks and xd's/xdm's which have so much play. im actually concerned about its tightness, i need to shoot this thing asap.

glad to see theres other kahr owners here on XDtalk
I was concerned about the tightness too. My CM9 is still stiff as heck but it is so much better than it was now that I have shot it as much as I have.


Kahr recommends a 200 round break in on them as stated in the manual.
Took a little more than the recommended round count to break in mine but it was a good thing, gave me time to get a good feel for the handgun and to figure out what it liked for carry ammo.

Kahr covers one area quite well & compliments an XD perfectly. It works well as close carry weapon with a very good reputation.

Probably try KahrTalk Home and read what ammo the CM9 tends to prefer. Good post.
Thanks for the link.
 
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