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After waiting for what seems like an eternity my new hs2000 has finally arrived in Australlia and I pick it up on Saturday. Two more sleeps!!! Im excited. Its one of only 4 in the country at the moment. More have been ordered I have been told.
I'll post more when its in my hot little hands! :D
 

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So the gun laws are loosening up in Austrailia?


Congratulations by the way. :lol:
 

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When the HS2000 was sold in the U.S. before Springfield acquired them, the gun was marketed by Intratec.

Who is marketing the HS2000 in Oz?

Enjoy your new firearm.

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I too am interested in the gun laws down under. As previously stated, the media here has pretty much told us guns no longer exist in Australia...in the hands of honest, law abiding citizens anyway...
 

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I know they can have lever and bolt rifles, double shotguns. Not too sure about pump rifles or shotguns. I believe semi auto rifles are taboo. Handguns, probably hard to get and restricted to range use.
 

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Hobocircus, the pistol was a 40 cal and therefore illegal so it was handed in and the government paid for it. I purchased a STI Trojan in 38 cal in its place and I am very happy with it.
Thanks for finding the other posts I made about gun laws in Australia. Have a read of them it just about sums them up. PIstol ownership in Australia is still high and has made little difference to most disiplines. IPSC has had some problem as we cannot make major PF now and mag capacity limits our competitiveness overseas.
PBA Imports now distribute HS 2000 in Oz Cost is $975 (approx). The first load of 4 guns was sold before they hit here and more have been ordered.
For those who want I have reprinted what I said in the other forum
Thanks everyone.
mulder



The following is a very very short run down on pistols in Australia.
No pistols above 38 cal except when issued a commisioners permit to own calibre above this. You can only own above 38cal to shoot certain matches ( metalic silhouette, western action ) but if your club doesnt run those matches then you have vertually no chance of getting a permit.
Semi Autos. Barrels not shorter than 5 inches
Revolvers. Barrels not shorter than 4 inches
Magazines. Capacity maximum of 10 rounds
Specialised Target pistols may have barrels less than the above minimum lengths but must be checked by the police and passed. Certain rapid fire guns are an example.
If you have had a pistol licence for more than 12 months ( I think it is) and wish to buy a pistol then you need to apply for a "Permit To Acquire" (PTA). A PTA is $30. Acooling of period of 28 days applies then an extra wait for it to be sent to you. Minimum time I have heard of is just over one month, the most I have heard is 6 months. ( they are really understaffed and overworked at the firearms registry and that statement comes from the government its self!)
Before you can apply for a PTA you have to satisfy the Secretary of your pistol club that you need a new pistol ( no biggy that one ) and you have to satisfy the Police that your storage of your pistols meet the minimum requirements. Once the Police are satisfied they issue a certificate of compliance and you give a copy of that to the secretary of your club. (minimum safe, 1/4 inch walls and door, minimum 20,000 combination lock system, bolted to the wall and floor using approved anchor bolts, no more than 1 mm gap around the door and consealed hinges, etc)
If you have had your licence for less than 12 months you are not allowed to buy anything bigger than a 22 cal pistol. anything above this and you will have to wait your time.
Once you have your pistols you have to, for each catagory of firerm you own ( air, rimfire, centrefire, black powder ) you have to compete in at least 6 competitions and have at least 4 attendances for each. Its hard to explain but if I had 3 different catagory pistols I could shoot say 6 matchs for rimfire and none for the other two but I would still ahve to have 4 attendances for the other two catagories.
I wont go into transportation or ammo storage or powder storage etc as this short intro the Aussie law is getting longer by the minute but I think you all get my drift by now.
You can own a pistol but the barriers are there.
 

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I got worn out just listening to you. The next time someone here complains about the barriers in our system...they just need to look at yours and thank their lucky stars.
 

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OK, I feel bad complaining that the local ranges raised their prices and are forcing us to buy their ammo...I guess in the grand scheme/comparitively speaking, this is a minimal imposition into my handgun hobby!
 

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Below is a little review I did for my new XD. Nothing new to you but I thought I would share the first official firing of one in Australia.
mulder


PBA Imports have commenced the importation of the Croatian made HS2000. This pistol is virtually the same as the Springfield XD that has been well accepted by American Shooters. The case that the HS2000 arrives in even has "SA" on the top of it. First a few Specs.
Calibre : 9x19mm (Luger)
Operation :Short Recoil, Locked Breech Mechanism, Self Loading, Safety Locked Action
Pistol Weight (Empty) :750grams
Magazine Weight (Empty) : 90grams
Magazine Capacity ( : 10 Rounds
Length (Overall) :180mm
Barrel Length : 127mm
Height : 139mm

For law enforcement there are other calibres available and also shorter barrel lengths.

The first thing you notice when picking up the pistol is the weight. A little heavier than expected but feels good in the hands. Obviously most people will say that this is a Glock copy and in some ways it is, like the polymer
lower and the steel upper, but the HS2000 has other features as well.
The HS2000 has 4 redundant safeties, A grip safety, trigger safety, firing pin (drop) safety and an out of battery safety. All these make for what is a very safe gun. The slide for example cannot be moved if you don't have your hand on the grip safety.
Other features include Drop Free Magazine, Ambidextrous Mag Release, Trigger Safety, Grooved Trigger Guard, Accessory Rail, Low Profile Front and rear Dovetail Sights with white dots (not luminous), Loaded Chamber Indicator, Firing Pin Status Indicator and a Thumb Rest. It is a fully featured pistol. The pistol comes in a plastic case and houses the pistol, oil bottle (empty so you can put what ever oil in it you like), 2 magazines ( though I have been told 4 mags will come with future pistols) a cleaning rod to pull cloth through and instructions. One thing with the instruction manual is that its not translated very well and when dismantling the pistol it doesn't tell you that you have to pull the trigger when sliding the slide forward. A small oversight that will be rectified I believe.



I took my new pistol for a test run to check it out and was pleasantly surprised. I used 115 grain PMC factory loads to run through it and it is a very flat shooting pistol. Have a look at the video and there is hardly any jump at all. I also don't think that the PMC has the required "grunt" for this pistol to achieve its potential. I will be playing with reloads and projectile size later.
My groups were shooting low but again I think that is my fault as I am getting use to the sights and I have noticed that the groups are coming up the more that I shoot it. All groups that I have shot all came with in the 100mm X 90mm size which is approx the size of a 10 ring on a service target. I think also which practice and the right ammo that these groups will decrease in size.



The ejected brass seemed to like my shirt front as several kept hitting it but most brass was ejected to the right side. 9mm is not easy to find in even short grass as you are probably all aware. Loading the mags tested the strength of my thumbs. The first few rounds were easy but from round 6 onwards you knew your thumbs were working. The last round was hard to get it but not impossible. The magazines also drop very freely from the pistol and the ambi mag release is great and the mag button is easy to locate and operate with both your thumb and trigger finger ( use whichever finger you like).
The trigger is very easy to get use to. There is approx 5 mm of take up till you feel it stop and then its approx 5 to 6 pounds of pull to release. It may even be less than the poundage stated, I didn't measure it but that is what it feels like. The trigger is very smooth.
Disassembly is extremely easy. Remove mag, rack to open position and lock in place, rotate take down lever clockwise 90 deg, unlock slide and move forward, pull trigger and slide the slide forward. This allows access to the internals for cleaning and oiling. Very simple.
Also this pistol is yet to be passed to shoot in IPSC due to its single action trigger but I think that is being looked into by Vince later this month.
If you want to see the video of the pistol in action go to,,,,
http://home.exetel.com.au/power/HS2000firstshots.MPG
Its approx 1.35MB in size so be warned but it does show how little recoil this thing has. If you have any problems downloading drop me a PM and I will email it to you.
Hope this small review has been of some interest. Any errors are regretted but I have tried my best. Also in closing I may add that I am NOT sponsored by PBA Imports or HS2000. I did this simply to inform shooters of a new pistol on the block, so to speak.
David
Left Side and Right Side Photos Below

 

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Surprised to see your HS2000 is in the Tactical format. I didn't know they made them that way, for some reason I thought they were only in the 4" Service configuration. Do they have the HS2000 in the sub-compact too?
Congratulations on getting your hands on a pistol you can trust. I still think about your "deceased" friend........
What a beauty she was. :cry: RIP
 
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