You're probably right; however, when it comes to employing defensive ammo, we aren't looking to kill our threat; we just want them to stop doing whatever it was that made us decide it was necessary to shoot them...and stop as rapidly as possible.there are so many people shooting a wide variety of different rounds. as for shooting at a range the kind of rounds you shoot should be taken with a grain of salt. many simply choose whatever is the cheapest.
when it comes to SD or HD thats when others will become more assertive as to what they choose. try a couple of different boxes. I myself use winchester pdx. I do feel jacketed hollow points have a very minimal difference between eachother.
I think with the right round placement they will all kill just the same.
If you think any center mass shot is a guaranteed stop...you are dead wrong. And if you think they are automatically fatal--just as wrong.I see where your coming from. However would you rather eliminate the threat completely with a center mass shot, or give the perp the chance to return fire with a leg shot?
I myself would not prefer a shoot out in my apartment.
See my comments on CNS hits.Very good. Now you're getting technical. Even though you're straying from the original post I see you know your stuff.
With everything said and done. It all comes down to eliminating the threat. The targeted points you mentioned seem almost impossible to hit in a high tension situation. But if actually done then I would think the receiver would suffer greatly.
I thought you would prefer to better the situation with minimal damage to the other person.
How bout we just say to shoot him in the head. Yeah?
See heavier load...Actually it's not about bigger it's about heaver. 115gr is too light for carry, 124gr is the lightest I would go unless it's the corbon dpx.
See heavier load...
I have yet to find anyone willing to stand in front of me and let me shoot them with a 22lr much less a 9 mm no matter what grain weight I am firing.
My answer was my opinion for the op I thought I had made that pretty clear. While I may stand alone in saying that I pray I never have to use my weapon in self-defense are defense of another I know that 115 grain while a light round will do what I need it to do in a time of need.
I call call up data showing that a 115 grain 9 mm also passed through 6 sheets of sheet rock and partially through the 7th if you would like. As for shooting through glass and sheet metal I was trained not to shoot at moving targets such as a car...my department frowns on that type of shooting since a 2,000 pound car with a dead driver is more dangerous than a single round.FBI protocol call for a MINIMUM of 12" of penetration also along with penetration you want consistent expansion.
Protocol calls for more that just bare gel and clothed gel. Car glass, sheet metal, wall boards, and plywood that lighter bullet doesn't do well on these.