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I have wanted a high end scope for a long time and finally decided i deserve it!

Problem is, there are too many choices! I am no optics expert so need some opinions on these 2 scope brands.

Swarovski z6 series or night force NXS series?

The scope i choose will be used on my long range prairie dog rifle so it will not be abused by falling off horses or climbing mountains.

My main concerns are the brightness and clarity of the optics,a scope clear enough to see .22 calibre holes in a target from 200 yards!

The scope that i choose will be in the range of 18-25 power at the top end.

The price range of the 2 scope brands are roughly the same, the night force seems to be built for extreme use and has an illuminated reticle which i really don't need.

I am sure there will be many opinions on this but i would like the hear from people that have used one or both of the scopes.

thanks

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I have wanted a high end scope for a long time and finally decided i deserve it!

Problem is, there are too many choices! I am no optics expert so need some opinions on these 2 scope brands.

Swarovski z6 series or night force NXS series?

The scope i choose will be used on my long range prairie dog rifle so it will not be abused by falling off horses or climbing mountains.

My main concerns are the brightness and clarity of the optics,a scope clear enough to see .22 calibre holes in a target from 200 yards!

The scope that i choose will be in the range of 18-25 power at the top end.

The price range of the 2 scope brands are roughly the same, the night force seems to be built for extreme use and has an illuminated reticle which i really don't need.

I am sure there will be many opinions on this but i would like the hear from people that have used one or both of the scopes.

thanks

don
37 views and no replies? Isn't anyone using these scopes?

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When you're talking about scopes that start at $1800 + and go up, you narrow the field considerably......

Wish I could help you!:D
 

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If it was between those two I would go nightforce every time, excellent glass. Also look at the vortex viper pst line, think you will be pleasantly surprised. I have a vortex viper 6.5x20-44 on my long range 308 and it is excellent glass for the money, I paid 400. And the psts are even better.

Check out snipershide forums for excellent scope reviews.
 

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In no particular order. Zeiss, Leupold, Huskamaw, Night Force, and Swarovski. These would be on the short list. Also of great importance are the turrent and reticles options. Visit Long Range Hunting for some excellent information on high end scopes.
LongRangeHunting Online Magazine
 

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Can't compare Swaro but I can certainly vouch for the NF NXS. Bought one in January and have put it through it's paces out to just over 1000 in rain. daylight, and dusk and I'm definitely glad I upgraded. All those brands mentioned by Charles are good but I would definitely throw in US Optics. If it wasn't an NF I would probably have gone USO but I'm definitely satisfied with the NXS.
 

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To get the inside scoop on scopes, you'll have to start lurking at the places where people use them: Accurate Shooter forum, Snipers Company, Hide, etc.
From what I've read, Swarovski isn't that good, compared to NF, USO, S&B, Leupold, Zeis and March.
I'm personally waiting on purchasing an NF 8-32X56 NXS w/ NP-R1 reticles. Just have to make sure it'll fit on my rig.:???:
 

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To get the inside scoop on scopes, you'll have to start lurking at the places where people use them: Accurate Shooter forum, Snipers Company, Hide, etc.
From what I've read, Swarovski isn't that good, compared to NF, USO, S&B, Leupold, Zeis and March.
I'm personally waiting on purchasing an NF 8-32X56 NXS w/ NP-R1 reticles. Just have to make sure it'll fit on my rig.:???:
I am leaning toward Night Force but i don't like the reticles that are available. Most of them look so busy that it might be hard to see a target the size of a prairie dog at 500 yards!

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Bench rest central or something like that is where the extreme accuracy guys hang out. Have a friend that can place 5 shots into one small hole at 100 yards. Also competes at 1000 yards. He has mentioned that the winners a re using Nightforce scopes.
 

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37 views and no replies? Isn't anyone using these scopes?

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:D

This is a forum where most of us own and talk about our cheap handguns.

Very few here spend that kind of money on glass.

(though I'd certainly like to have swarovski or zeiss some day)
 

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I am leaning toward Night Force but i don't like the reticles that are available. Most of them look so busy that it might be hard to see a target the size of a prairie dog at 500 yards!

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Night Force offers many reticles if you visit their web site check the NP-2DD: Varmint, 1000 yd benchrest if you want something that is not so busy.
 

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I am leaning toward Night Force but i don't like the reticles that are available. Most of them look so busy that it might be hard to see a target the size of a prairie dog at 500 yards!

don
I was concerned about that too and oscillated between the NPR1 and NPR2. After seeing some through the scope pics out on the net I went with the R1 because I wanted to be able to range with the recticle and it has finer graduations. After using it for 4-5" rocks at 500 yards and 10" targets at 1018 yards, I find the R1 recticle does not overwhelm the target.

RETICLES DETAIL

If you don't need it to range then there are a few options as Charles mentioned or you can look at some of those benchrest recticles. There are some through the scope recticle pics on Snipers Hide where they compared NF against Luppy and several others. Here is a NPR2 recticle pic as well.

Nightforce NXS 5.5-22x56mm
 

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Found the SH Through the Scope pic thread.
I am leaning toward Night Force but i don't like the reticles that are available. Most of them look so busy that it might be hard to see a target the size of a prairie dog at 500 yards!

don

There is a pic of a varmint on page 2 through a NPR1 recticle that is probably what you are looking for. Quite a few more on pgs 7-9. Hope that helps.

Through the scope pics - Sniper's Hide Forums
 

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I personally don't see Leupold in the same conversation with Zeiss and Swaro. IMHO. To me, I would rather buy a higher end Burris or Leupold and take the extra $1000 and buy another pistol!!
 

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Zeiss makes the glass for the Swaros and Leupys the last I had track. Each company differs in their coatings and all the other things that make them special.

When it comes to glass I like a good shooting scope, but would rather put the extra into a good set of binoculars for my style of hunting shooting.
 

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I would choose a zeiss have two one with z600 the other with z800 one on 7stw the other on .220 swift (z600) and have loved it primarilly used on p dogs dang nice the only other way I would go would be a Schmidt & bender with a mill dot ret just my opinion
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I have shot a bunch of diff scopes. I pretty much stick to the uppe rend leupolds for their perfromance & factory support. The NF is a great scope, so is the Zeiss & Swarv. IMO, glass is one of those things where you get wht you pay for. There are no great $300 scopes.
 

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Big difference in clarity between Tasco and Leupold. It's not about light transmission though the tube (the eye can only handle so much light a one time) it's about clarity of the light.
 

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night force are great scopes but do you need that much scope something similar but cheaper about 700 to 800 is the vortex viper PST or the Bushnell 4200 elite tactical
some others to look at :) good luck
 
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