Finaly went out to try out some hand loads. I was shooting two loads both throwing a 180g rainier leadsafe HP. The first was 7.2grains of longshot and the second was 8.5. I had read that longshot worked very well with the .40 s&w and that 7.5 grains was a decent load. Well my experience was a little discouraging. My normal ammo is remington umc 180gr hollow points which I like a lot. Both of my hand loads were much snappier than the remington loads even though 7.2 grains of longshot throws stones at just about the same speed (both around 1100fps). I also had poor accuracy I was shooting slow fire at 10 yards and was hitting like I was shooting at 25 yards. The big issue I had was heat. after 10 rounds of the 8.5grain loads I experienced a jam, I grabbed the front slide serations to do a quick inspection and to try and chamber the round (gun was still pointed down range) and I burned my hand pretty good. I have shot a 100 round box of the remington umc in about 5 min and the gun never got anywhere near that hot. I intend to try again with a lower load I'm thinking in the 6.5 range but i would like to hear what others have to say about the heat issue and what they experienced with longshot powder.