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Finally giving the 6.5 Creedmoor a try

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  1. Aug 13, 2019 #11
    PMAZ

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    I got the Savage 10 Stealth Evo in 6.5 CM LH because I’m left eye dominant. I do everything except shoot this new gun as a right hander.

    Also bought a Vortex PST 4-16x50 with QR mount.

    It’s going to be one seriously badass gun.
     
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    Shooting 6mm Creedmoor, MPA, Curtis action, Spencer heavy barrel, sweet shooting rifle. Have this 1, shooting to 700 yds., with 107 Sierra bullets. Started to buy 6.5, but the 6mm, has always had my attention. Have 2 M14's, AR 10, Rem 700 SS fluted 308 bolt sitting in a MPA stock. 6.5, will be my next rifle
     
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    Finished assembly. I love it and will be shooting it Saturday morning.

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    Nice.
    I use the ELD's in my RPR they are a very well performing round for me out to 1k. I have not shot further yet. Inside 1k I can hold 2 MOA with them. Inside 500 and I keep them at 1/2 MOA. As far as the round itself, I have used it mainly for targeting long distance shooting but have winged it out at few groundhogs with success. I have not done any deer hunting with it as my rifle is not something you want to carry in the wood on a hunt.
    Good luck to you, you didn't go wrong with the cartridge in my opinion.
     
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    Very nice. Looks fun. I loved my PST 6x24. Such a good scope.
     
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    6.5 Creedmore is very nice, however.

    .308 is not the best at anything in terms of winning matches. It’s a jack of all trades and a master of none. But, there will never be a cartridge that will replace it. EVER!

    .308 Cons: (And it’s probably only one)
    1- It’s not an extreme long range or ultra extreme long range cartridge (up to 1500 yards is doable)

    .308 Pros:
    1-Affordable large variety of ammo
    2-Allrounder
    3-Increased barrel life(up to 7000-8000 rds before groups become too large on a high end barrel)
    4-Phenomenal Terminal ballistics
    5-Reloading friendly
    6-Soft recoil
    7-Ammo available everywhere in the world
    8-lower bc bullet = smaller yaw inside transonic range
    9-1500 yard hit on a 20”x20”plate is doable if the shooter does his part (with a G.A. Precision or similar higher end guns like defiance, surgeon, AI, Alamo, gunwerks, etc)
     
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    First and foremost, I believe the 308 Winchester is the greatest all around north american cartridge created, but its inability to do anything well needs to be acknowledged. It has nearly 30-06 performance in a short action with modest recoil. I prefer the 7-08 over the 308 however.

    I don't doubt at some point someone said the same thing about the 30-06...although I agree 7.62 NATO is a terrific round and 308 Winchester in the civilian form.

    Nope. Not competitively anyway. 308 has limited case capacity bullet weights used in Long-Range shooting. They are often or almost transonic at 1000 yards. Even 30-06 can outperform at 1,000+ and that's a mediocre cartridge. If you're moving past 1,000 yds there are much better options. Tge 6.5 Creedmoor should be supersonic out to 1,400 yards. If you want something 308 based past 1,000 yds I would go with 260 Remington, but its a barrel burner and very little factory ammo available.

    Other 308 issues...sure there are more:
    • Powder capacity for its bore size is inadequate
    • Inability to use/drive high B.C. bullets
    • Excessive bullet drop, drift and lost energy (trajectory is bell shaped by 500 yards)
    • Limited to 200 gr bullets
    If you're shooting matches, serious and putting up heavy hitter scores, you'll be blessed to get 5,000 rounds before you see a drop in accuracy.

    The 7-08 has a flatter trajectory, less wind deflection and more energy downrange than its parent with slightly less recoil.

    No more so than other similar cartrdiges.

    Lower BC isn't an advantage for high power, its a disadvantage, however, for hunting where you won't be using excessively heavy for caliber bullets and extreme ranges with high B.C. the sub 200 gr 308 is a terrific hunting round for North America. Other cartridges are required to push 200 gr+ bullets.

    Just like action shooting, if your measure of success is a pie plate, the standard is relatively low. There are better rounds with similar or less recoil for long range competition.
     
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    Ive been thinking .243 is under rated for medium to long range...not extreme long range. Like 600 to 1000.
     
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    Almost agree. One of the best rifle shooters alive does too, and at distance. 243 will provide excellent results up to and including 1,000 yards. Are there better cartridges? Absolutely, Sure. But often with more recoil, flash, noise, etc. 6.5 Creedmoor is just hard to beat as a package for 1k competition thanks to being supersonic past 1200 yds and very modest recoil without burning barrels. At the end of the day, just buy one of each ;)

    Great thing is that 243 isn’t hard to find either and very manageable recoil.

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    That’s what I said bro. You just elaborated better. .308 is not the best at anything but does everything very well. It can’t be replaced.
     

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