5 more days till i take my xd9 home!!
Hydra-Shok has been updated and improved over time (Depending on the source of the info, from 7-9 times over it's lifetime), just like most other ammunition. Gold dots used to be offered in an 8-petal design, but are mostly found in 6 petal offerings these days. Just because they don't advertise the updates, doesn't mean they don't happen.Fly-Sig said:Hydra-shok is an old out-dated design. In 9mm there are a lot of reports of failure to expand reliably. It is one of the rounds I personally would not carry for self defense.
In 9mm the best rounds IMHO are Remington Golden Saber and Speer Gold Dot in 124 gr +p. If the +p isn't available, then I'd go with 124 gr regular pressure flavors of the same rounds.
There are a lot of hollowpoints out there, but many have inconsistent expansion and/or poor penetrations and/or fragmentation. The two I've mentioned are the two that consistently perform well in tests.
I dunno if that is bullshit. Sounds like the perfect round for use in pressurized airplanesagalindo said:Check out the info on the Federal site. Ammo is for indoor ranges it is not a selfdefense round. The person that is auctioning it of is full of crap.
http://www.miragetechnologies.net/Federal Ammunition.htm
I meant the line:I dunno if that is bullshit. Sounds like the perfect round for use in pressurized airplanes
Frangible ammo would be ideal for airplanes but I would think they would use a type specialy designed for selfdefense maybe magsafe or corbon. This ammo sounds like it was designed for training and minimum of lead exposure.So lethal that Law Enforcement is not permitted to use it (see sticker on outer case). This stuff does not wound--it cores!
The only airplane to ever brought down by a single bullet through the skin was the Lear Jet in "Goldfinger." B29 bombers of WWII had pressurized cabins and routinely returned to base with bullet and AAA holes all through them.NExd said:I dunno if that is bullshit. Sounds like the perfect round for use in pressurized airplanesagalindo said:Check out the info on the Federal site. Ammo is for indoor ranges it is not a selfdefense round. The person that is auctioning it of is full of crap.
http://www.miragetechnologies.net/Federal Ammunition.htm
I have to agree. I've said here before that I've seen first-hand what Hydrashoks do in ballistic gelatin. I know, I know, ballistic gel tests aren't everything, but this is out dated technology. That came from a Federal rep himself. When shot through denim into BG, the Hydrashok (165 gr. .40) looked almost like FMJ. There was little expansion at all. The impressive round to me is the Federal HST. The 9mm and .40 expand to about the same size. It is hard to tell the difference. .45 expansion is unreal. I don't know if this round is available to the general public yet or not. I've only seen it through LE distributors. There are other fine rounds out there as well. I just know I think that there are better things than the HydraShok. Just my 2c worth.Hydra-shok is an old out-dated design. In 9mm there are a lot of reports of failure to expand reliably. It is one of the rounds I personally would not carry for self defense.
