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I have been having problems with my 4" XD-9 extracting. I had a box of Winchester white box 115 grain and about every other one would not extract the brass and jam up. I have heard of using other ammo but i think it should be about to use any ammo i put in there. I heard lubing and under-lubing might help. My last resort before switching out the extractor is that i heard you can have extraction problems if you have limp wrists. Can anyone explain this to me please.
 

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Did you check out the post from 9mm lover about 3-4 below yours ("Common problems")...The springs have lot to do with extraction..along with how clean the gun is...if you posted this info b4 , I appoligize for not seeing it. I've got Dons rod and a#22 spring and have shot 1000's of rounds now without extraction problems. also with my EFK barrell. UI do clean my guns and lube them well after every practice.


Hope this helps

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Get some Gun Scrubber or Powder Blast and spray out your extractor a couple times.

Then run the extractor dry.

See if that helps. :)
 

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Since i got the gun it would do it once every 100 rounds or so just on this last box it was every other..i would have to unjam it about 4 times for a 10 round mag. I ordered a rob and an #18 spring an extractor. i'll try the spring first and if that doesnt work i'll probably replace the extractor.
 

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Failure to extract is common in the XD-9. The good news is the gun can be 100% reliable if you are willing to do the two things necessary to make it that way.
1. If your pistol has an "old style" extractor, replace it with a "new style".
2. Use ammo that has a thick rim. Compare the rim thickness on Wichester white box ammo to other brands. You can see that the rim is very thin on the WWB.
All guns have issues. Just because some of my guns won't function well with Wolf ammo or other junk ammo is no reason to get rid of the gun.
 

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Is there a picture for both old and new extractor?
 

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There used to be a picture in the pre-hack forum. :(

Alternately a member who was familiar with tuning extractors on his 1911 reported that he worked the same on his XD and fixed his extraction problem. That report is also lost but I tell you it's true! :D
 

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polarbear said:
I heard you can have extraction problems if you have limp wrists. Can anyone explain this to me please.
If you limp wrist then you slow down the slide speed so much that the brass just barely gets directed out of the slide and is pinched in there when it closes. The brass is left stuck out of the slide like a stovepipe and is refered to as a "stovepipe".
I think you would be hard pressed to limp wrist so bad as to leave the brass in the chamber (the typical XD failure).
 

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After refinishing my HS, I experienced some FTEs with cheapo Mag-Tech ammo. I bought a few of the Remington 100 round packs (115gr. JHPs) and didn't have a single problem! Like it or not, some guns just don't like certain ammo types. I'd switch ammo, it solved my problem!
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As far as "limp-wristing" goes:

Is your wrist locked and the slack taken out of the arm joints all the way to the shoulder socket?
 

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Is this how the extractor is suppose to be? or is this extractor too long?

 

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I have wondered before if the length is a problem. It may be possible that it rests on the taper of the brass and gets kicked out of the way when the brass slams back. I don't know if the timning is right that it could happen, but it looks like it is possible from your photo.

Anyone with a bad extractor that they have removed? I would like to play with one to see if I can get it to fail in my pistol and then try some fixes.
 

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i got a new extractor on the way that im replacing i can send to you if you'd like....give it a try and see what happens
 

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I would love to get your bad extractor. It will be like Christmas all over again. PM coming.
 

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this picture btw is of a winny white 100 round value pack.
 

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I'm no expert, but remember that the case rim has to be able to slide between the extractor and the breach face as the round is stripped from the magazine. If the extractor was designed to hold the round very close to the breach face, is it possible it would prevent the back of the brass from sliding up the breach face?
 

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That is correct, but I am interested if the leading edge of the extractor (the angled surface) is being kicked out by the bevel on the brass. I want to play with that geometry to see if that is why the extractors seem to hate Winchester brass most of all. Its one of my pet theories and I want to see if I can disprove it or support it. :D
 

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I just posted about a Q&A I read that stated that the extractor groove on WWB in the 100 round packs is different from the extractor groove on WWB in the 50 round box. It also stated that the 100 round boxes tend to cause FTEs on individual guns regardless of make or model.

No more 100 round WWB for me. Even if I know a problem is ammo related I'm afrait it will undermine my confidence if problems occur.
 
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