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Anyone know of a place that does custom painting?

Anyone ever heard or dealt with T&Z Armory?
 

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Allow me to be the first in a long string of people on this forum to suggest you send it to James. He runs xdman.com and is an active member and supporter/vendor here.


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I will second that motion.


There being no further discussion, the motion is carried with no dissenting votes! :)
 

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I will second that motion.


There being no further discussion, the motion is carried with no dissenting votes! :)

Just wait; More will come to tell of the glory and the splendor that is James' paint jobs...

Also OP, his prices are very reasonable.


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James it'll be lol. It'll be a couple months but wanting my ducks in a row. Thinking of getting my fiancée a XDs 9mm for her birthday and want some pink on it.

Do you do any frames?
 

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Paint on a gun IMO is a bad decision but if your gonna do it James is truly at the top of the pack for doing it.

I like his other work more. Cause no paints involved.

Safety is a momentary choice. Prior performance and certification are completely irrelevant.
 

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Paint on a gun IMO is a bad decision but if your gonna do it James is truly at the top of the pack for doing it.

I like his other work more. Cause no paints involved.

Safety is a momentary choice. Prior performance and certification are completely irrelevant.
^ Good point...:)

Anyone know of a place that does custom painting?

Anyone ever heard or dealt with T&Z Armory?
If you're considering plating over painting, I'd go with plating.
Either hard chrome or nickel boron, but you're looking at a silver finish over a custom color or black.

Hard chrome..



Nickel Boron..





Personally, I'd never do a bake on finish of any kind on any of my firearms..
Not a slam against James, for he does great work, just a personal preference of mine...:neutral:
 

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Why is paint on a gun bad?
OK, you asked..
This is just my personal preference and experience.
Doesn't make me right or wrong in anyone else's eyes..

From my experience, wear, eventually wears though the paint.
Be it breech, barrel, slide rails, frame rails, etc..
I had a P239 slide that started out stainless.



Had painted in Duracote or Cerakote, too long ago to remember..
It wasn't a very durable for everyday carry.
Every little nick and ding of the slide showed through down to the original SS finish.
The paint flaked off the breech and barrel.



I ended up having that slide and barrel refinished in nickel boron.




It may be great for some of you, I didn't care for it.
I get parts refinished if I feel the need, not painted and baked.
I've never had a electroless nickel or nickel boron part chip, flake, or wear down to the original metal..

I'm not slamming James' or anyone else's ability to do a good job.
Some of you guys swear by Durcoat or whatever, I just don't care for it.

Remember, you asked..
 

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I sent mine to James. I am thrilled with the result. Couldn't be happier. Hey you might as well have him install night sights while the old ones are off!!! Others may marr your gun up. Better turn around time than anyone local to me or anywhere I looked for that matter.
 

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Wear and tear on the paint but nothing to do with the mechanics of the gun?
 

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I just had mine done and fired ab 200 rounds through it already and function is flawless as was before. It is a Springfield XD though . Even my factory black slide had wear on it on the spots where sliding takes place internally. Mine seems pretty on there now externally, and don't expect problems with it. Time will tell, but all looks good so far. I believe the way the metal is prepped and paint applied to it has a lot to do with the durability of the finish??? Just my opinion, working on real world experience (putting more rounds down range) every chance I get.
 

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With all due respect, I have to disagree with anyone that says they dislike "painting" a gun because it wears easily. Cerakote is proven to be an arm & leg better than the next closest finish. Duracoat and KG Gunkote don't even compare to Cerakote. Neither does the melonite finish that comes stock on the XDm/XDs.

Do your research and you'll find out that Cerakoting your gun is probably the best thing you could possibly do for rust and corrosion protection.
 

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Interesting. Regardless with his prices I'm getting it done and I'll find out myself. Appreciate all the help.
 

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My Cerakote specialist (and I'm sure others too, i just don't know any others besides my guy) apply Cerakote to other products besides just guns. Mostly automotive, but also industrial and commercial machinery. He did an entire Ford 351C, inside and out, then ran it for several thousand miles before disassembling it for display....yes, it held up with no piston skirt scuffing or other discernable wear.

It's tough stuff. That it looks cool and comes in fashion colors is a bonus.
 

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Quick question regarding shipping. Am I able to remove the barrel and ship my pistol USPS to James without using a FFL? Looked online but nothing was clear.
 

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Quick question regarding shipping. Am I able to remove the barrel and ship my pistol USPS to James without using a FFL? Looked online but nothing was clear.
You only need an FFL when shipping the frame, the slide can go mail and I don't need the barrel.
 
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