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Hello my XD totin friends!

I am interested in getting started with the IDPA or the USPSA. I am a FED LEO by trade, and I have had the experience of shooting at a few "dynamic" ranges (Blackwater Training Center in N.C.). The comparison between that, and the ranges that I am used to qualifying at are night and day. The thought of competing in a dynamic environment sparks my interest even more. So I did a few searches, and either my computer-working skills are as bad as I thought, or maybe no one has asked before.

Question:

1. What gear is suggested/needed to start up in IDPA?

2. What tips can you give an IDPA newbie?

3. What are the fundamental differences between IDPA and USPSA?

4. What are the suggested mods for el pistola? (mine is a service .40 if
that helps)

4. Where is everyone getting those "south park-esque"avatars?



THanks for the help
 

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I'm pretty new to this all too but here are some useful links.

United States Practical Shooting Assoc.
http://www.uspsa.org/

International Defensive Pistol Assoc
http://www.idpa.com/

Brian Enos' Ultimate Shooting Sport Forum
http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?act=idx

One big difference is that I think most of the IDPA courses of fire use some sort of weapon concealment whereas USPSA does not. USPSA also allows for race guns.

USPSA allows you to drop mags on the ground, IDPA most often requires retention.


Both sites should answer almost all of your questions.

I'm recovering from shoulder surgery and can't wait to get started in this sport. Looks like a great time!
 

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I'm pretty sure that IDPA doesn't allow changing calibers for a gun, but don't quote me on it.

Here's a small new shooters thing I written up for the USPSA Area 5 site. This article mainly focuses on USPSA Production.
http://www.uspsa-area5.org/home/modules.php?name=New_Shooters

IDPA will have more equipment rules than USPSA. In IDPA you're only allowed two mags on your belt, USPSA allows however many you can fit on there. Use whatever pistol you're comfortable with is what you should use for IDPA whether its a Glock, XD, or a 1911.

Tips for a new shooter? Go slow and get your hits, there's no such thing as a "double tap", its "two shots", and last but not least, have fun and be safe!

South Park avatar thread:
http://www.hs2000talk.com/viewtopic.php?t=20230&highlight=south+park

I'll gladly answer anything I can about USPSA, or head on over to Brian Enos' forums, some of the best shooters in the world actively browse and posts there.
 

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Thanks for the replies. Will USPSA allow the conversion?
Not 100% on this but I don't believe it would be legal in Production (the bring what you got class) unless they considered it a factory option. If the factory sells conversion barrels them perhap?? Maybe Ample or one of the of USPSA shooters can chime in with a response.

I shoot in the Production class (also Limited-10) with my 40, I have a little more recoil to deal than the people shooting 9's and minor loaded 40's but I still have a fun..

About half way down the 2nd page of the post below we break down how major/minor scoring works in USPSA.

http://www.hs2000talk.com/viewtopic.php?t=19169&start=15
 

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Its not so much "available as a factory part" but easier said "Can you go into a gun shop, plop down your $400 and have them order you one just like that".

Honestly, at small matches where all XDs look the same, no one is really going to pay attention but its best to just use what you've got since the XD is available in both calibers and there's no real difference.

But the bottom line is, no its not legal for Production nor (any) IDPA.
If you reload, you can do the "mousefart" 40s using 180gr at about 700fps, its about the softest shooting thing you can get.
 

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I don't know offhand of places that sell minor 40.

Reloading cost for 1000 mousefarts is about:
$15 Primers
$15 Powder
$15 1x Brass
$65 1000 Zero 180gr
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$110 per 1000

If you can find someone who reloads locally *THAT YOU TRUST*, you may be able to bribe them to load you some but that's always assuming liability upon yourself that they didn't double charge a round.

A single stage reloading setup can be had for less than $300 for all that you need, it'd be dog slow loading it that way but it can be done.

Minor 40 is really a "gamers" thing, shooting 165gr WWB will be right on the edge of major out of a 4" gun. You could always shoot limited 10 using major power factor but I feel people starting out should stick to Production.
 

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I've looked high and low for someone selling mouse fart 40 loads with no real luck. I've found a couple places that sell lite 40 loads but they were much more than I wanted to pay; the names of the companies escape me right now.

I've finally settled on shooting reloads from Miwall for the time being until I give in and start reloading. You can get Miwall reloads from http://www.outdoormarksman.com for $115 per thousand. Being in CA you might be able to hit one of the gun shows that they attend and save on shipping; see their www site www.miwall.com for show schedule. All in all I like this ammo, IMO it's much less snappy than fatory loads like WWB, etc.
 

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In IDPA, caliber conversion is not permitted in Stock Service Pistol. However, conversion is not specifically disallowed in Enhanced Service Pistol, which is the Division in which the XD is placed, so you can probably switch to 9mm if you like.

BTW, I regularly shoot at three clubs, and we never check such things at local matches. Sanctioned (state level and above) matches are another story.

Partially loaded magazines may not be dropped on the ground, empty magazines may be discarded.

It's impossible to do a full IDPA rules review here. I suggest you read the rules at www.idpa.com and then attend a match or two. Like any sport, it takes awhile to take in everything and get familiar with the procedures, but it doesn't really take very long. Try it, you'll like it :!:
 

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The biggest thing I *hate* about IDPA is the magazine rules, I'd been nailed with a FTDR before because I "intentionally dumped an extra round into a target", it was at less than 5 yards, I had a 0 and -3, they said since I took the extra shot, thus going to slide lock to reload (yes the third shot did get a 0, and it wasn't limited vickers count), I got a procedural.

Also the "stacking" of magazines so that you can intentionally go to slide lock without dumping extra rounds is rediculous.

For crying out loud, afterall...IDPA is still a game.
 
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