My Lyman Reloading Handbook lists a starting grains : 1.9 for a 147 gr (#2 alloy) with a 1.058" OAL.Looking for specific reloading info from 9mm using Clay's powder. I use Clays for my .45 and would like to stick with one powder for my handguns.
Anyone using Clays for 9mm, any weight, and care to share your data?
Thanks
I have been working with Clays in my .45acp and cast 200 gr SWC bullets. 3.6 gr seems to work OK. What accurate loads have come up with?Looking for specific reloading info from 9mm using Clay's powder. I use Clays for my .45 and would like to stick with one powder for my handguns.
Anyone using Clays for 9mm, any weight, and care to share your data?
Thanks
Not much to work upto:I have been working with Clays in my .45acp and cast 200 gr SWC bullets. 3.6 gr seems to work OK. What accurate loads have come up with?
I will be working up some 9mm loads with cast 125gr RN bullets. I will be starting at 3.1 gr and working up. I load 3.1 under 158Gr TC bullets in my .38spl. They shoot accurately in all my revolvers and in two leaver action carbines.
Hope we can help each other more.
HP38/W231 is very good in the 45acp, works well in all the service calibers for light to std. vel. loads.Ok, forget about clays for the 9mm :neutral:
Loaded up 100 rounds for 155gr with 3.0gr of clays... little soft had FTF because the slide wasn't fully cycling. They were soft shooting however
I also loaded up 100 147 gr with some left over 231 powder. Those shot like a champion. I may have to reconsider my single powder theory. I love Clays in my .45 but in the 9, 231 was a great load. I'll use up what's left of it, probably around 300 rounds or so to use it up.
So, back to the powder threads and see what's working. Thanks for the thoughts.
I'm looking at the same thing with the exact same calibers.I use Clays for 12ga, 38spl, 9mm, .44spl, and .45acp. I buy it in 4lb and 8lb canisters. It is very economical and makes mistakes at the loading bench less likely. Now I am looking for one rifle powder that will work in .223, 30-30, and .30-06. This may be more difficult to pull off. Candidates are: Varget, H335, Win 748. Any ideas?
huh... all the loads I made up with Clays were dirtier than S&B factory fodder, while HST is the cleanest burning powder I've yet to use...I have used the other powders, 231, WST and compared to Clays they are dirty.
A really good 9mm load for clays is with 147gr LFP 2.6gr clays with a aol of 1.045 very accurate, soft shooting and very clean. I dont crimp, I do however take the decapping rod out of the sizer die and run the loaded round threw that to just snug it up a bit and close the case mouth up from expanding sence you cant seat and crimp a lead bullet at the sametime. A word of advice on this load however, I would not go any higher with the powder charge. Lyman suggests 2.8 as highest but its a compressed load, if 2.5- 2.6 doesnt cycle your weapon, 231 and bullseye works well for both 9mm and 45auto.Ok, forget about clays for the 9mm :neutral:
Loaded up 100 rounds for 155gr with 3.0gr of clays... little soft had FTF because the slide wasn't fully cycling. They were soft shooting however
I also loaded up 100 147 gr with some left over 231 powder. Those shot like a champion. I may have to reconsider my single powder theory. I love Clays in my .45 but in the 9, 231 was a great load. I'll use up what's left of it, probably around 300 rounds or so to use it up.
So, back to the powder threads and see what's working. Thanks for the thoughts.
No the other issue w/ powders like Clays is the pressure spike. It is very unfriendly as you get to max. SO w/ Clays, there is no a little over max. Pressures can & do spike vert. You have to run Clays really hard to even get close to a factory equiv load & a bullet setback or deep seating can & will produce vert pressure spikes. It's why I do not adovcate it for anything but low vel minor loads. It does have good volume though, why I would choose it over TG for bunnyfart loads.Some folks are concerned about fast powders getting people in trouble. This can happen with an accidental double charge of powder. In this case 3.5 or 3.7 grains of Clays take up 2/3 of the case. A double charge spills powder over the top of the case and is an attention getter.
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Yes you can seat & taper crimp a lead bullet in one die, it's just not as desireable. Running the loaded round into the sizing die is NOT likely helping your accuracy any as it's likey resizing the lead bullet (think LFCD). ALL semiauto rounds should get a mild taper crimp to make sure they chamber completely. Back to the basics, this isn't good reloading technique.A really good 9mm load for clays is with 147gr LFP 2.6gr clays with a aol of 1.045 very accurate, soft shooting and very clean. I dont crimp, I do however take the decapping rod out of the sizer die and run the loaded round threw that to just snug it up a bit and close the case mouth up from expanding sence you cant seat and crimp a lead bullet at the sametime. A word of advice on this load however, I would not go any higher with the powder charge. Lyman suggests 2.8 as highest but its a compressed load, if 2.5- 2.6 doesnt cycle your weapon, 231 and bullseye works well for both 9mm and 45auto.