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new member here and my first post will be a little rant about Brown Bear ammo.

Got to the line and fired 2 rounds then I get a fail to feed, i figure maybe its this new promag so I switch to factory mag, fire 1 round then get a fail to extract, so I rack the slide a few times and the case pops out finally. Fire another round, click.. nothing.. look at gun and its slightly out of battery...

So now I'm done with this BS and switch to Blazers and Indepence JHP... no problems. I've shot over 700 rnds of WWB in my XD with not a single problem.

Speaking to the range operator later I find out the Brown Bear are steel core and I shouldn't even be shooting them in the indoor range.

I picked up a 500 rnd case of the brown bear ammo not realizing what exactly it was and now I'm stuck with this useless crap :(

When it DID fire their was a massive muzzle flash, also the stuff has red slealent all over it. Very dirty also, my thumb was black after loading a couple mags.

Anyway lesson learned - I will stick to WWB.
 

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Rumor has it, it is rebadged Wolf ammo
 

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Although, to be honest, I doubt very seriously it is steel core. If it fails the "magnet test" it's because the jacket is of a bi-metal composition, one of which is magnetic.

I think they don't like people shooting steel cased stuff because they have to sort it out of the brass later. Of course, they could just run a magnet over the pile, but that'd be too much work for many of them. :roll:
 

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Speaking of independence (but not really related) I just shot some .40 thru my glock and had three rounds not fire out of thirty rounds. I won't buy that ammo again.
 

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The range guy said steel bullets damage the back stop and yeah he did the magnet test. I noticed it was sparking when hitting the backstop. He said Wolf ammo was ok to shoot though so i dunno.
 

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Well if that stuff is actually steel core, I think I may buy some, because I may be mistaken, but steel core is illegal to import because it's a "cop killer" bullet...

Wolf ammo will fail the magnet test too.
 

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The guys at my Range say the steel core stuff is more likely to ricochet and have pieces come back at you. Speaking of "Pieces coming back at you", I was at the Range last week and someone's brass went straight up about 12 feet and hit the exposed flourescent light, breaking it and showering some of us with glass. Lots of fun..... :shock:
 

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Brown Bear is steel cased, and has a bimetal jacket (as someone already mentioned). This results in the sparking you are seeing down range. The case of Geko 9mm ammo I bought did the same thing. But when we pulled a bullet and cut it in half, the core was indeed lead and did not respond to a magnet, while the jacket did respond to a magnet. Sorry to hear you have 500 rounds of 'non-hunting dogs'. Maybe you could practice malfunction drills with it?

-Zett
 
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