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I sent my slide to Springfield for Bomar sights. It took three weeks door to door. They came out great I just can't wait to get to the range to try them out. Anyone know what distance I should zero them at? Anyway here are the pics.









Here are some more pics if interested https://home.comcast.net/~subr37/my_xd.htm
 

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Was about $233 w/ shipping from Springfield plus however much for me to ship to them. I forget.
 

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What happened to the dovetail groove where the factory sights were located? Did they replace the whole slide with one made just for those sights?

Edit: Looks like ajamesp51 beat me to the question.
 

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Look very nice.
That's a lot of money for a set of sights on a moderately priced gun. Do you feel the Bomars offer something other sights don't, or did you just want something more attractive/different?
 

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Hey guys,
I wanted adjustable sights because I didn't feel the factory sights were accurate. The only other option was Dawson but I didn't want fiber optics so Bomars it was. It is the original slide. They just cut out a groove for the sights to fit in. It is a big investment but I am happy with them. I just got back from the range and I like the sight picture. I would rather spend more money on the gun I have then go buy another one. Anything could happen but as of now I never plan on selling this gun.
 

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SubReel said:
Anyone know what distance I should zero them at? Anyway here are the pics.
That's easy....zero the sights at the distance you will usually shoot at.

I have adjustable sights on my .45 and on my .22.

The .45 seems to be accurate without further adjustment (being zeroed at about 35 feet). The .22 I adjust more frequently because it's a more accurate gun and a fraction of an inch makes a difference in target shooting. Different ammo in the .22 seems to have a bigger affect on accuracy too compared to my 9mm or my .45.

Good luck and enjoy your new sights...very nice!!!! Make sure you have a good steady rest when you are zeroing in your sights.

Peace,
D.
 

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Subreel,
The XD looks good ! Despite the price or whatever, thats what you wanted, and it worked for you . You are happy with your sight picture and you plan on keeping your XD, thats cool. :) What elese do you plan to do? Get a trigger job. Get your grip stippled . Anew spring or and a rod, etc.. :wink:
 

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I already have a Don's rod and 22# spring however I went back to the stock to keep my gun factory. The recoil does not bother me so much. I have been thinking of the trigger job but I don't think it is neccesary. I plan to use the gun for carry so I figure I should stay away from trigger work. The only thing I don't like about the trigger is it is not smooth. It feels a little rough. If it does not smooth out after a while I might look into a trigger job. I like the decal grips I have and stippling might make the frame too small for me.
 

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I would be so bold to say that BOMAR makes the best adjustable rear on the market. As long as you can deal with the fact that they need to millout the slide for the install, you are good to go.

I know Rich does the same thing, and they do look sweet.

 

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Looks great! I like how the rear sight is all the way to the back of the slide, to get the longest radius. I would prefer a ramped front sight on my gun, but that one looks cool too.

I've wondered why no one makes a quick change rear sight. You could have one for target shooting, and another for quick target acquisition. Seems like someone could come up with a good system if they tried.
 

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I think MMC sights drop in like Sig sights and they come in different variations include tritium, dot, bars, and plain.
 

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zero them in?

dont adjust your sights to your fallacies of your trigger control and grip.
I agree. But there are many who feel that compensating is not a bad thing. To me it seems like a sort of "cheating". But I had this very discussion with an expert marksman who disagreed. His contention was that a pistol is a personal piece of equipment and it should be adjusted to suit the owner. He used golf equipment as his analogy.

No one considers it "cheating" to use clubs that compensate for too much fade (slice) or too much draw (hook). So it was his belief that you use what works for you. While I disagreed, I can see his point. I don't need to agree. There's no right or wrong, just different approaches. If results are the most important thing, does it matter how they are achieved? Different people will answer this differently.

I personally think it's better to work on improving technique rather than working past it by compensating through the use of adjusting sights to "improve" poor marksmanship. But in the end, I can understand his alternative viewpoint....and that is simply that the end results are what matters. Be it for self defense or even (maybe especially) competitive target shooting.

Of course it's more ideal IMO to be able to pick up a properly sighted gun and be accurate with it as opposed to needing your own gun that a shooter with better technique would find poorly sighted.

A perfectly sighted gun will be perfectly sighted for every shooter. A gun sighted to compensate for one's specific needs is only going to work for that person.

But the interesting question becomes; what is ultimately a better thing? Good technique with less consistency, or poor technique with greater consistency. For a target shooter, I guess more consistency would yield better end results if you can compensate by adjusting sights to overcome poor technique......If you can put 10 rounds through one hole but always be low and left (for example) you could in theory adjust the sights to get all your shots dead center. If you have better technique and can put your shots closer to dead center to start with, but you are less consistent, and your groups are more spread out, then in a competition the guy who "cheats" using the adjustable sights to compensate will come out on top.

Just anther way of looking at the issue. Right or wrong? Who's to say? I guess it depends on what is important. Immediate results, Or working on slowly improving so you can shoot anyone's gun and not just your own that's set up to correct your weakness. ...poor trigger control, or whatever the problem may be.

Peace,
D.
 

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My bomar sights we rubbing my fat gut when I had the gun in the holster. I was going to let it go until last week I was drawing from the holster and it snagged hard on the shirt I was wearing. It ripped the shirt, gouged me and I nearly dropped the gun as it tried to slingshot back into the holster as the fabric of my shirt fought the draw.

I decided to set the slide up in the mill here at the shop and took a radius cutter to the sight. I tried a .125 radius but it still felt like it was snagging slightly so I brought it back in the next day and radiused it to .188. Took it to the range that night and intentionally wore a baggy shirt just to see what was going to happen. No snags, no rubs, no discomfort at all. Then since I didnt' want to disassemble the sight to reannodize the aluminum, I just took a black magic marker and reblacked it. Looks decent and functions fine. That's all I was after.
 

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Delija said:
But the interesting question becomes; what is ultimately a better thing? Good technique with less consistency, or poor technique with greater consistency. For a target shooter, I guess more consistency would yield better end results if you can compensate by adjusting sights to overcome poor technique......If you can put 10 rounds through one hole but always be low and left (for example) you could in theory adjust the sights to get all your shots dead center. If you have better technique and can put your shots closer to dead center to start with, but you are less consistent, and your groups are more spread out, then in a competition the guy who "cheats" using the adjustable sights to compensate will come out on top.
good technique with good consistancy.

let me give you an example that this happend this weekend.

this nice old man that shoots with us every week has had accuracy problems for years. well, we looked at his sights and his rear sights were cranked all the way to the left; obviously he was compensating for shooting to far right (too much finger in the trigger guard, and possibly to much thumb pressure on the left side of the gun). so we showed him the proper grip and trigger press and he started to shoot concistantly to the right. we lined is sights back up in the middle and told him to shoot again... what did he do? shot the tightest group he had ever shot... all in just 5 mins.

for 2 years this poor man has been chasing his tail. he would shoot groups (not good) with his sights cranked to the left and with poor grip and trigger control; and he shot far right when he shot properly, so he thought he was doing it wrong when he was doing it right. we fixed him up in about 5 mins and you could just see the glow of happyness around him. he was extatic that he finaly solved the problem and shot some damn tight groups.



but you are right... its your pistol... you do with it what you want.
 

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I would like to be able to shoot accurately with a gun that is sighted properly so I know I am shooting well. I would like the ability to pick up any properly sighted gun and shoot it accurately. I have only been shooting for about 6 months and I'm sure it will take me a little time and experience to be able to do this. And the help of everyone on this forum. I thank you all for all comments whether good or bad as long as they help.
 
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