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I almost forgot:


^ Claude Werner's latest "Recognition Primed Decision-Making" series fits in here pretty darned well! :)
 

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Hi,
Listening to that interview, now.

It's pretty good, but it's harder to follow than Hearne's "How Paranoid Are You" presentation because of the lack of direct visuals, and because of the interviewer leading the discussion.

Still, not bad overall, and worth the listen.
I almost forgot:


^ Claude Werner's latest "Recognition Primed Decision-Making" series fits in here pretty darned well! :)
Cool! More homework! ;)


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So with OPs petmission, I have made this a sticky. It has accumulated a lot of great info. Please continue, and keep it on track. 👍
 

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Hi,

I posted about this gear in another thread where I reviewed my Concealment Express holster. I thought I'd copy it over here to consolidate my EDC story. Let me say, I really like these DCC clips!

---------------------------<Quoting myself>-----------------------------------

I went and done it, again, ordered more stuff. Mrs. BassCliff asked, "When is it going to stop?" I didn't have an answer for her. :unsure:

I've ordered a DCC clip to replace the FOMI on my new kydex holster along with both the flat teardrop and soft teardrop muzzle pads. We'll see which pad works best. There is one "hot spot" when I sit. This is kind of fun, putting together just the right pieces. ;)

----------------------------<Quoting myself again>-------------------------------

Anywho, thanks to @TSiWRX for the DCC recommendation. My clips arrived to replace the FOMI clip on this holster. Hey! I got a new sticker too! Yay me! ;)



Even though I ordered the extra fasteners for these clips I thought I could use the existing hardware. The back of the nuts were round and smooth. The new hardware has traditional square nuts.



My first idea didn't quite work out. Because the stock capture nuts were smooth I had no convenient way to tighten the screws enough to hold the cant. You can see the old fasteners and FOMI clip in the red circle.



The screws that came with the clip were short and a bit fiddly to get started. At first I did not use the included washers but was not able to tighten the fasteners enough. So I used an extra drop of red threadlocker (the screws came pre-treated with a little drop of threadlock) and my short bent nose pliers to hold the nut while I tightened the screw. The washers made the difference. The clip is not going anywhere now.



A closer look.



My original worry with the new hardware was the new nuts scratching my slide. After proper installation you see they are recessed enough in the pockets of the kydex that they do not touch the slide when drawing and re-holstering. Cool!



These DCC clips are fantastic! The holster is much easier to attach and detach. It is also held much more firmly to my belt and doesn't move. Now I'll be glad to update this thread when I receive the Dark Gear muzzle pads I ordered. These clips actually help the comfort level so the pads should make the holster feel like I'm wearing nothing, right? ;)

Until then, thanks for putting up with this old noob. Everything is new and I'm having a blast. (y)

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Note: I talked about the muzzle pad in Post #29, if you missed it. With a full sized pistol in a kydex holster, this setup is very comfortable and concealable, mostly. Some clothes it doesn't work with but I've learned it's all about compromises. As I've also learned here, this probably won't be my last holster rig. :D


So that this post is not all repeated material, I wanted to mention that last night after my gig at an amusement park I stopped by an establishment to say high to some friends who were playing in the band. I knew this establishment does not allow firearms on the premises. I also learned in my CCW class that it is not illegal to carry in a private business that advertises as a "gun free" zone. However, if someone somehow realizes that you are exercising your legal CCW and 2A rights, you can and will be asked to leave. If you do not leave then you can be arrested for trespassing. Always do the smart thing and leave rather than take a chance on losing your CCW if the cops show up to escort you off the premises.

I must be doing OK so far because nobody noticed. I am well known in this particular establishment, talked to two of the security guards, a couple of cute servers, talked to the band, said "Hi" to a couple of other friends, then took my leave. I had to get up early and go to church the next morning. The security guards know that I'm an enthusiast, so are they. On the way out we talked about where to get ammo and local ranges they visit. It was chill. I didn't advertise, didn't fidget, had on suitable clothes so as not to print, and nobody was the wiser. And that's the point. :)

This evening Mrs. BassCliff and I are going to a big concert at a large amphitheater where I know there will be metal detectors. I will be sure to leave my firearm locked up in a secure container in my truck since I can't carry inside the venue. I will don my pistol when we leave because we will be driving through questionable parts of town. Be prepared, be safe, be observant, don't be stupid. Thank you all for trying to teach me how not to be stupid. :LOL:


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Hi,

^ It's OK - that kind of stuff will happen. Gear-interactions are really a very unique-individual:unique-gear issue, so it's just like that: you vet your own, over time and circumstances.

A single failure like that doesn't necessarily suggest that the gear is un-usable, particularly when the event occurred so soon after implementation. I would be tempted to re-position and re-try, if you don't mind slightly different clocking.

Out of curiosity, is your belt actually tight enough on your waist? When you draw with a normal draw-stroke, does your belt displace upwards - at all - before you break retention on the holster? The best way to visualize this would be to film yourself using some kind of slow-motion capture.
A little more follow up on this.

As an experiment today, I was able to tighten up my gun belt one more notch (to notch 5!). It was not uncomfortable. (Maybe I've lost a little weight? Maybe the belt is stretching?) But my jeans wanted to ride up a little higher than normal, above my hip bones. This seemed to position the grip of my pistol near the bottom of my rig cage. Again, not uncomfortable but the grip was leaning out away from my body. Normally the muzzle pad will help push the grip into my belly area and make it more concealed.

I think my carry looks better with my belt one notch looser so that it rides a little lower on my hips and allows the grip to lay against my stomach tighter.

Out of concern for belt movement during the draw, as soon as I have a chance I will video my draw with both belt settings (notch 4 and notch 5) to see if there is any significant movement. As I was eyeballing it today it seems my belt will draw upward about 1/4" before it breaks retention. Isn't this exciting stuff? :sleep:

It's the process I'm going through and I'm just rambling on about it. As always, thanks for your counsel.


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Hi,

Out of curiosity, is your belt actually tight enough on your waist? When you draw with a normal draw-stroke, does your belt displace upwards - at all - before you break retention on the holster? The best way to visualize this would be to film yourself using some kind of slow-motion capture.
This is not really an apples-to-apples comparison because the khaki pants don't fit the same as the jeans. I wanted to post a video of my clearing the holster so you could check the belt movement. There's not much difference between the 4th notch and 5th notch on my gun belt and I did not change the retention of the holster between the two segments. The khaki pants uses the 5th notch and the black jeans uses the 4th notch on my gun belt. There doesn't seem to be much difference in the belt movement between the two. Could there be too much retention in the holster? (Please pardon the dirty mirror!)



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I know it's subjective (I don't have the necessary slow-mo software), but the first two draws from the black pants.....the holster seems to come "up" less, or is that just me? But it seems that as the number of draws continued, it pretty much mirrored (no pun intended) the Khaki's, no?

^ And yes, I watched the video before I read your post, detailing which setup had the belt cinched down one notch tighter. :)

I tried to stop the video as your gun broke retention in each draw by repeatedly hitting pause/play, and it looks to me like on draws 1 and 2 with the Khaki pants and on draw 4 of the black, during those draws, the holster came "up" as you started the draw and hung to the gun a bit more than your other draws.

^ Is the angle of the muzzle that I see - which seems to be pointed more towards your body as you complete the draw - a visual artifact from the camera angle, or is it real? If it is real, I wonder if perhaps the way that you're drawing is causing the gun to "hang" somehow inside the holster, thus allowing the holster to ride up before it reaches the extent to which its anchoring will allow, and is pulled free of the gun?

Your belly is admirably flat (I carry some spare tactical caloric repository :ROFLMAO: ) - I wonder if you can get in a more straight -up draw, and more importantly, that you angle the muzzle away from you as soon as you clear.....
 

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Hi,

I know it's subjective (I don't have the necessary slow-mo software), but the first two draws from the black pants.....the holster seems to come "up" less, or is that just me? But it seems that as the number of draws continued, it pretty much mirrored (no pun intended) the Khaki's, no?

^ And yes, I watched the video before I read your post, detailing which setup had the belt cinched down one notch tighter. :)

I tried to stop the video as your gun broke retention in each draw by repeatedly hitting pause/play, and it looks to me like on draws 1 and 2 with the Khaki pants and on draw 4 of the black, during those draws, the holster came "up" as you started the draw and hung to the gun a bit more than your other draws.

^ Is the angle of the muzzle that I see - which seems to be pointed more towards your body as you complete the draw - a visual artifact from the camera angle, or is it real? If it is real, I wonder if perhaps the way that you're drawing is causing the gun to "hang" somehow inside the holster, thus allowing the holster to ride up before it reaches the extent to which its anchoring will allow, and is pulled free of the gun?

Your belly is admirably flat (I carry some spare tactical caloric repository :ROFLMAO: ) - I wonder if you can get in a more straight -up draw, and more importantly, that you angle the muzzle away from you as soon as you clear.....
Thank you for your insight. I will admit that I was not really practicing my draw stroke in favor of just clearing the holster in order to show the belt movement. I should record my actual practice draw strokes. I'll try to set up my camera on a stand so I don't have to hold it while recording.

If you view this video on my YT channel you can click the "settings" gear and view it down to one quarter (.25) speed if you like. Next time I'll wear the same pants/shirt just to have fewer variables in my belt notch experiment.

You could be absolutely (probably) right in that I'm not consistent with my draw as far as pulling it straight up and out of the holster every time. I may be twisting it and causing more friction as I draw. I will slow-practice those fundamentals before I record again.

Is there a "retention test" to make sure there's just enough to hold the gun without interfering with the draw? I set mine so that it won't fall out when turned upside down but will release if I give it a good shake.



Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to do some more situps. :ROFLMAO:


Thank you for your indulgence,


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If you view this video on my YT channel you can click the "settings" gear and view it down to one quarter (.25) speed if you like.
I will give that a try!

Is there a "retention test" to make sure there's just enough to hold the gun without interfering with the draw? I set mine so that it won't fall out when turned upside down but will release if I give it a good shake.
Subjective.

Your test is not inappropriate, but this is really quite variable depending on the end-user's perceptions. Also, remember that IWB will place some extra tension across the mouth of the holster, so this can both increase friction as well as increase retention if the holster's capture point lays underneath.
 

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If you view this video on my YT channel you can click the "settings" gear and view it down to one quarter (.25) speed if you like. Next time I'll wear the same pants/shirt just to have fewer variables in my belt notch experiment.
You know, I've always seen the setting for video quality, but this is literally the first time that I saw the playback speed selector! OMG! :eek: 🤪 :ROFLMAO:

Ht helped somewhat, but I think a part of it (for me) is the frame-rate. There's still places where I wish I could stop the video, but cannot.

That said, the quarter-speed playback did highlight more clearly some of the issues that I raised above.
 

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An interesting quote I saw today....

"Without goals, training has no direction."
- Natalie Coughlin

So, question - where do you want to go? :)
 

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An interesting quote I saw today....

"Without goals, training has no direction."
- Natalie Coughlin

So, question - where do you want to go? :)
Sometimes I want to go where everybody knows my name,
and they're always glad I came. ;)

I just want to go about my daily life knowing that I can defend myself and my loved ones if necessary.

I got an introductory "deal" on four training sessions at United Defense Tactical, a local tactical arms training facility. It seems they offer everything from hand-to-hand CQC to helicopter interdiction. It was only $80 for four sessions. Even if they're only an hour long it will be a nice "how do you do" to see if they really have the juice to pay full boat for a few courses. It looks like it could be fun. I figure these session will be worth at least $20 each. It will take me a while to save up for a Front Sight trip. ;)

The other evening I was walking around in one of my summer weather moisture-wicking shirts. When a breeze kicked up I felt a little exposed.

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I suppose if it's just a quick burst of wind it's not a big deal. But walking into a stiff breeze with this shirt may be problematic. Then again, not very many people are that observant.

Anyway, I'm just reminding myself to be mindful of my attire. Carry on.


Thank yo for your indulgence,

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Sometimes I want to go where everybody knows my name,
and they're always glad I came. ;)
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I just want to go about my daily life knowing that I can defend myself and my loved ones if necessary.
FWIW, I think that your current marksmanship skills more than suffice in a flat-range/belt-buckle-to-belt-buckle sense.

I'd encourage you to add pressure: I think that at your current level, even a shot-timer will add enough pressure, much less the presence of an instructor hovering over your shoulder and other students watching you on-line. Progress to shoot-house (problem solving) and Force-on-Force as quickly as you can. (Integrated combatives and vehicle tactics - both optional/can be saved for a later date.)

I got an introductory "deal" on four training sessions at United Defense Tactical, a local tactical arms training facility.
That looks pretty good! I honestly don't know much about what's available locally to those on the West coast. If anything, I think that the B8 FB Group - and I believe I linked you into the P&S network, too? alternatively, join their discussion Forum - will provide good guidance. There are some real training-heavies in P&S, everyday Joes and Janes who put my yearly attempts at training to-shame. :)

The other evening I was walking around in one of my summer weather moisture-wicking shirts. When a breeze kicked up I felt a little exposed....

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I suppose if it's just a quick burst of wind it's not a big deal. But walking into a stiff breeze with this shirt may be problematic. Then again, not very many people are that observant.

Anyway, I'm just reminding myself to be mindful of my attire. Carry on.
Yup. That'll happen.

The only time I was ever "made" was at a local gas-station. Granted, I was simply carrying OWB (open-carry by anyone other than prohibited persons is completely legal here in Ohio) and wasn't worried much about concealing...but still. 😊 :p I'd was coming home from day 1 of a 2-day carbine class and wanted to top-up my car. I had a very lightweight, uninsulated rain-slicker (Marmot PreCip) on, and a gust of wind plastered the wet jacket onto my body. A fellow motorist stopped at the next pump over yelled "Dang brah, I like your Nine!" :D

I apologized for unintentionally flashing it - he was cool with it, and instead asked me some questions: I hope I was able to interest him to seek out that carbine class we talked about.
 

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Greetings my friends,

Today started out rather dull, just work (where I can't carry) and a dentist appointment (where I can). Like the last time I donated blood, I was a little concerned about being outed when someone is working so close to your physical person. But the visit was just as pleasant as it always is. I did not take a picture while sitting in the dentist chair. Instead I simulated my "leaned back" position in my truck afterwards just to see what it looked like. Nothing. ;)



The real fun started after I got home and was just thinking about bed. As I was watching one more episode of "The Flash" on Netflix I heard a long screeeeeech, a big WHAM!, and a little bit of yelling. I got up, ran outside, and found that Mrs. BassCliff's car has been hit and knocked 40 feet down the street. As I walked over to the other driver to see if he was OK, he drove off! The red Focus had been parked right at the edge of my drive way. Now it's in front of my neighbor's driveway.



I stood on the other side of my driveway and took pictures of the tire marks as the fool locked up his breaks. He must've been going 100mph or faster.





Mrs. BassCliff is going to be pissed! She's been out of town and will return on Tuesday.







The other car was stopped at the corner on the other side of the street and the driver took off as I walked over to his car to see if he was OK. His car was munched pretty good too. I figured he wouldn't get far. I dialed 9-1-1 and as I was talking to dispatch the car came back around the block and pulled into the driveway across the street! While talking to dispatch I started walking toward the guy thinking he had come back to exchange insurance information. Instead, he got out and ran into his house. I told all this to dispatch and she sent units right away.

To make a long story longer, as the first officer on the scene was interviewing me I mentioned, "I should tell you, I'm a CCW holder and I'm currently carrying." The officer said, "OK, cool" and proceeded to get information from me. We are also required to notify the County Sheriff CCW office within 10 days of any law enforcement interaction. I've already sent that email.

Well, this turned into a whole big deal. This guy was known by the cops and they spared no effort. Pretty soon there must've been half of the city police force out in front of my house.





There was a K-9 unit and a tactical unit that eventually went in the house when all of the other occupants (family?) had been cleared out. I've met only one of the occupants, the old guy who must be the dad, but didn't really know any of them. Seems they did not raise this son right. There were two other boys in the house besides mom and dad.



There was even a helicopter.



Eventually the K-9 and the tactical unit went in. They had helmets, shields, and ARs. The family had stalled long enough that the driver (let's call him a perp now) had crawled over the back fence. The K-9 eventually found the perp hiding in another neighbor's shed. After all the shouting was over I got a case number for insurance purposes. I was on my computer just about to file a claim online when I got a call from the arresting officer. He wanted me to do a field identification. I agreed.

To make my eyewitness more confidential, I got in the back seat of his squad car and he drove me up the street to another car where the perp was being held. While I was in the back seat they brought him out into the light where I could see him through the bars between the front seat and back seat. He couldn't see me, not that he hadn't seen me before. He had shaved his head to try and change his appearance but he still had his stupid mustache.

Anyway, they caught him and he was really lit, could hardly stand. I sincerely hope that he will start making better decisions. And the more I think about it, perhaps it was a good thing that I hadn't moved Mrs. BassCliff's car off the street and parked it in the cul-de-sac. If my car hadn't been there he might've hit the curb and flipped into another neighbor's house and possibly killed himself. That house was empty at the time. Of course, he could've hit the curb sooner and landed right in my den as I was watching TV. It's a crazy world but I know God is in control. I might not like His plan, but I trust Him. No one was hurt this evening and I have pretty good insurance. I also hope the perp doesn't come looking for trouble. He might just find it.

Here's something to think about. Should I go over there and be a good neighbor? Tell them I understand, sometimes the kids will mess up? Or should I go over there and ask why they stalled the cops long enough for their boy to try to escape? What kind of parents are you trying to be? One thing I know I won't do is warn them that my family is fully capable of defending ourselves, should their boy come looking for any kind of retribution for his incarceration.

Drat. Tomorrow I have to deal with insurance. I think I'll take the day off work. I need a beer.

Take care, fear not, be kind, be free!


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^ Holy %^&!

I'm sorry for the hassle of the property damage, but all-in-all, I think you're absolutely right that it ended as well as it didL: things certainly could have been a lot worse, had your wife's car -NOT- been there.... I'm no forensic expert, but to have missed a vehicle as bright as your wife's Focus must have been with any headlight at all - that guy was undoubtedly quite toasty.

I'm really not sure what to do in your case: anyone with half a brain could guess that the owner of the damaged vehicle would have called the cops....
 

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^ Holy %^&!

I'm sorry for the hassle of the property damage, but all-in-all, I think you're absolutely right that it ended as well as it didL: things certainly could have been a lot worse, had your wife's car -NOT- been there.... I'm no forensic expert, but to have missed a vehicle as bright as your wife's Focus must have been with any headlight at all - that guy was undoubtedly quite toasty.

I'm really not sure what to do in your case: anyone with half a brain could guess that the owner of the damaged vehicle would have called the cops....
I've learned a few more details about the situation in the house across the street. Let's just say it one of those typically sad stories where "no control" leads to "bad choices".

I was surprised to get a response so quickly to my LEO interaction email.



Sarah at the Sheriff's Office CCW Unit is always on the ball.


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Glad you all are ok. Stuff can get fixed, and that’s what insurance is for.

Personally I wouldn’t go knock on their door. Seems if they were willing to assist him in attempting to get away from the cops, they may have some bad feelings toward you now. And, if s*** does go sideways, it could possibly be put on you as an instigator…

Just my .02 anyways


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Glad you all are ok. Stuff can get fixed, and that’s what insurance is for.

Personally I wouldn’t go knock on their door. Seems if they were willing to assist him in attempting to get away from the cops, they may have some bad feelings toward you now. And, if s*** does go sideways, it could possibly be put on you as an instigator…

Just my .02 anyways
Yes, no one was hurt. I realize how incredibly blessed I am. The driver could have just as easily jumped the curb a little sooner and landed in my den, on top of me. (I like to sit on the floor when I watch TV.) My insurance company said they would handle any communication necessary with the other party so I will leave it with them. While I don't think my neighbors are a criminal family they do seem inclined to skirt the law to save their boy. They seem to have one really bad seed.

We've had very little interaction with these neighbors. There's been no animosity. That might change since they might blame me for putting their boy in jail. But with things they way they are in this state, I wouldn't be surprised if he's back out on the street tonight. I'll be keeping a close eye on the house across the street.

Just to let you know why I notified our county's CCW unit so quickly, it's the law. This is from the CCW FAQ page:



I wasn't arrested, detained, or pulled over but I was questioned. Hence my quick email to the CCW Unit.

Let's be careful out there. Act justly, love mercy, walk humbly, be kind, fear not, be free.


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Hi,

On a happier note, I got this in the mail yesterday. I think this magazine comes quarterly from USCCA. Those of you who have been members for a while are probably familiar with this publication. This is my first issure and its cover seems particularly apropos.

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I'll end up reading this cover to cover, hoping to glean tidbits of wisdom and knowledge.

I've also been receiving lots of emails with links to online articles from USCCA and CCWSafe. I try to keep up with those too but they both have so much information online it's tough to find the time to absorb it all. I do the best I can. ;)


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Hi,

Last Saturday I attended an event where I would be in front of a lot of people. I wanted to double-check my appearance.



Many holsters offer an option called a "claw" which pushes the grip closer to your body. With the modifications to this holster, the DCC clip and the Dark Star muzzle pad, the grip lays really close to my torso.







That's not to say another holster might need a "claw" but this rig seems to conceal just fine without it.



Amanda couldn't tell. Her husband is a sheriff's deputy.



But, dog gone it, my activity during all the equipment moves allowed my magazine holder to let my spare mag slide up, out, and fall to the grass. This is the second time this has happened. Nobody noticed but I embarrassed myself. Then when it was time to change my shirt for the show I asked the drummer to stand on my right side while I faced the back of the stage. At this park there was no convenient private place to change. So I did it on the sly and avoided "brandishing" my EDC.

Anyway, nothing major here. I'm just learning to deal with this responsibility. This week I have a training session at United Defense Tactical. I'll ask a few questions while I'm there. Until then, take care, act justly, love mercy, walk humbly, be kind, fear not, stay free.


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