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Greetings Patriots!

I made some more progress along my CCW journey. Actually, I've been preparing everything I need to bring to my initial interview on Wednesday. I picked up not one but two Post Office money orders for the fingerprint fee and 20% of the administrative/background fees.

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If I'm deemed worthy I'll get to pay another $238.40 for range fees and the remaining administrative fees. Oh, and I think there's another fee for their eight hour training class. Here is all the paperwork I have to take to my initial interview. All of the county forms have to be completed. I have to show originals and give them copies of several personal documents.

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Actually, the pile above is short a utility bill and a property tax bill (to show residence). But I've got that now too so I'm ready to go. I'll let you know how the interview goes.


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Hi,

Lay off the poppy seed muffins before your drug test.
Oh great. Another test. I hope it's multiple choice. :D

None of the resources indicated a drug test. We shall see. ;)


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Oh great. Another test. I hope it's multiple choice. :D

None of the resources indicated a drug test. We shall see. ;)


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After all of that, I hope you get approved! I got finger printed, FBI background checked and finally an interview with the Lt. it was a formality before they politely said NO. I had the same opportunity that all of the other low life CCW hopefuls go thru to get declined. Apparently, I forgot to click on the donations page to the Sheriff.


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After all of that, I hope you get approved! I got finger printed, FBI background checked and finally an interview with the Lt. it was a formality before they politely said NO. I had the same opportunity that all of the other low life CCW hopefuls go thru to get declined. Apparently, I forgot to click on the donations page to the Sheriff.
I ain't nobody. I don't know nobody. I ain't got no money. Hopefully they'll like my smile, charm, and wit. :ROFLMAO:


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Hi,

If they like you half as much as we do here, you’ll do fine.
🤣 😜(y):ROFLMAO:


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Hi,

I don't know why I haven't asked this yet. Doh!

Should I give my HR office a 'heads up' that they will be receiving an inquiry regarding my CCW application? I've worked with the VP of HR and the Director, plus all the secretaries and clerks love me. ;)


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I'd just let it ride out, but I often am wrong, my wife tells me.
 

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Many employers won’t release much info outside of start date/position etc due to liability. Besides, if you get denied for CCW due to a conversation with a gun hating HR a person and you get involved in an ‘incident’ and bad things happen cuz you’re not armed, big time lawyer types will be calling I’m sure!

My guess is that they don’t actually do that much of an interview, but I could be wrong. LEO interview practices aren’t exactly the same as a job interview. They’re trained to ask leading questions to make someone answer a certain way or convince them to testify a certain way.

If they do and specifically mention a CCW application, expect to be called in to the Office and talk about the company policy of no guns etc etc etc. depending of course on who your employer is.

So, how did your interview go?


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Hi!

Many employers won’t release much info outside of start date/position etc due to liability. Besides, if you get denied for CCW due to a conversation with a gun hating HR a person and you get involved in an ‘incident’ and bad things happen cuz you’re not armed, big time lawyer types will be calling I’m sure!

My guess is that they don’t actually do that much of an interview, but I could be wrong. LEO interview practices aren’t exactly the same as a job interview. They’re trained to ask leading questions to make someone answer a certain way or convince them to testify a certain way.

If they do and specifically mention a CCW application, expect to be called in to the Office and talk about the company policy of no guns etc etc etc. depending of course on who your employer is.

So, how did your interview go?
I arrived at the sheriff's station right on time. I was a little concerned because there was a fender bender on the freeway and construction on the surface streets I did not count on. Good thing I like to leave a little extra time just in case.



I checked in at the receptionist area and was told to go on over to the employee services area and sign in. I picked up another form to fill out while I waited for my name to be called for my interview. I was wondering why I had to fill out another form with exactly the same information that was on all the other forms. I guess everyone wants a little piece of me. ;)


The actual interview was done by, I'm assuming by the way he was dressed, a detective sergeant wearing a sharp black shirt and a bright green polka dot tie. I'd forgotten it was St. Patrick's Day. He was a pleasant and jovial fellow who seemed younger than my two older daughters. He seemed pleased that I had all my paperwork in order. We did the interview right there at one of the windows in this office. He did not ask a lot of questions and the ones he did were general small talk kind of questions. For the most part he went over all my paperwork, clarifying a couple of things and correcting a couple of other things. In my "general cause" statement he mentioned that this part was excellent (self and family protection) but that part was not compelling (talking about expensive musical equipment I carry in my pickup). He explained that property theft is not a reason for deadly force. I told him I understood that I needed an "immanent threat" and he said that would all be covered in the training class.

EDIT: Just because I like pictures, here's one that was posted to the SBSD Facebook page showing the cubicle farm in the lobby where I did all my paperwork, interview, and fingerprinting. I did not meet these fine officers but my business was conducted at the windows behind that glass partition.

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After going through my paperwork and a few signatures the officer sent me back out to the lobby to wait my turn for the fingerprint machine. A few minutes later a nice female officer brought me to the back, asked me to take off my mask for a picture, then proceeded to take all my fingerprints using an electronic imaging machine that was a bit finicky. We made small talk while she held my hand and got the proper images. When the officer was done with my fingerprints she said to head on home and wait for the call. It's going to be months because of the massive backlog in applications. It took almost four months just to get this appointment so I suspect it will be just as long before I hear of the results of my FBI background check. Then, hopefully, I'll be able to schedule their training class and range time, pay the rest of my fees, and eventually get my permit in the mail. I'll try hard to convince them that I'm not a menace to society. Wish me luck. ;)


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Should I give my HR office a 'heads up' that they will be receiving an inquiry regarding my CCW application? I've worked with the VP of HR and the Director, plus all the secretaries and clerks love me. ;)
I agree with @Pandaz3 .

Just let it go through the process.

The thing about people is that we can never really know what another is thinking - even those who are closest to us are still their own persons.

There's an excellent tale of this kind of workplace thing having gone wrong that I recently saw on one of my FB feeds. I'll try to dig it up....more in a bit.
 

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Hi,

I agree with @Pandaz3 .

Just let it go through the process.

The thing about people is that we can never really know what another is thinking - even those who are closest to us are still their own persons.

There's an excellent tale of this kind of workplace thing having gone wrong that I recently saw on one of my FB feeds. I'll try to dig it up....more in a bit.
Yes, indeed. It's out of my hands now. I'll leave it up to the Good Lord's wisdom and I'll just praise God from Whom all blessings flow. 😇


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Wow. You have my sympathy. Nothing like that around here.

Just renewed mine. Had to leave my cellphone and pocket knife in the car. Remove my jacket/wallet to go through the metal detector (it squawked anyway - metal plates/screws in my leg). Never detected them before. They have "new" stuff that is great, according to the deputy. He waved the wand around my leg some more and said to grab my jacket and wallet and head to the County Clerk's office.

Got back there. No one in line. Lady behind the counter asked what I was there for and I told her it was to renew my concealed carry permit. She grabbed the forms and told me to go through the door and sit at the 1st seat/booth. She handed me the form (basically a page and a half) that I had to fill out, along with a self addressed envelope. I filled out the form, handed her my driver's license and old permit card and she made copies to staple to the renewal form. I finished filling out the form, paid my $30, handed her the form, she handed me my license/permit and told me I should get the new one (good for 5 years) in the mail within 4 weeks or so.

It's been several years since I got the original (15 I think). For the first one I had to let them take my finger prints and prove residence in the county (my driver's license).

After all the crap in VA last year with the newly elected dim/lib/prog/socialist state politicians and proposed 2nd Amendment violations our county administrators declared our county was a 2nd Amendment Sanctuary (as did about 96% of the VA counties and many of the smaller cities and towns) and our local LEO Chief decided the county should make it easier for law abiding people to get concealed carry permits so they dropped the fee from $50 to $30 for 5 years.

Again, you have my sympathy for what you guys have to go through to exercise your Constitutional rights.

Good luck with the permit.
 

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Wow. You have my sympathy. Nothing like that around here.

Just renewed mine. Had to leave my cellphone and pocket knife in the car. Remove my jacket/wallet to go through the metal detector (it squawked anyway - metal plates/screws in my leg). Never detected them before. They have "new" stuff that is great, according to the deputy. He waved the wand around my leg some more and said to grab my jacket and wallet and head to the County Clerk's office.

Got back there. No one in line. Lady behind the counter asked what I was there for and I told her it was to renew my concealed carry permit. She grabbed the forms and told me to go through the door and sit at the 1st seat/booth. She handed me the form (basically a page and a half) that I had to fill out, along with a self addressed envelope. I filled out the form, handed her my driver's license and old permit card and she made copies to staple to the renewal form. I finished filling out the form, paid my $30, handed her the form, she handed me my license/permit and told me I should get the new one (good for 5 years) in the mail within 4 weeks or so.

It's been several years since I got the original (15 I think). For the first one I had to let them take my finger prints and prove residence in the county (my driver's license).

After all the crap in VA last year with the newly elected dim/lib/prog/socialist state politicians and proposed 2nd Amendment violations our county administrators declared our county was a 2nd Amendment Sanctuary (as did about 96% of the VA counties and many of the smaller cities and towns) and our local LEO Chief decided the county should make it easier for law abiding people to get concealed carry permits so they dropped the fee from $50 to $30 for 5 years.

Again, you have my sympathy for what you guys have to go through to exercise your Constitutional rights.

Good luck with the permit.
Yes, "shall not be infringed" has different meanings to different political administrations. I would be a proud and responsible CCW permit holder. While I'm being totally serious about the application process and about being able to protect myself and my family, it's also an experiment in the process. It's a learning experience for me and, I hope, others who are in similar situations here in my state. If I don't get a permit this time I will probably apply again using what I've learned the first time around, as long as there's nothing that permanently disqualifies me. There shouldn't be.

Thanks for sharing your experience. It's good to know that other parts of the country are taking the Constitution more seriously. ;)

I was talking to a couple of friends recently who live in a county just south of me. One was saying that if you can take a certain concealed carry class then you are virtually guaranteed to get your CCW cert. It seems this particular instructor is somewhat of a local legend with his military and LEO experience (retired) and is well known in the county. I'll keep in touch and see how their process turns out.



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All of that's crazy and foreign to me.

I was fingerprinted 15+ years ago and thanks to the lifetime permit no renewals needed...

Talk about jumping through hoops in California...
 

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All of that's crazy and foreign to me.

I was fingerprinted 15+ years ago and thanks to the lifetime permit no renewals needed...

Talk about jumping through hoops in California...
Some jump thru those hoops and get denied for no good reason other than ‘We don’t want citizens to carry a gun’.


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Some jump thru those hoops and get denied for no good reason other than ‘We don’t want citizens to carry a gun’.


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Scary to see what our new DA is doing here in california and law abiding citizens don't even have the right to protect themselves or there love ones.
 
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