[ThumperMX113]

I've never applied for a tax stamp or the like. This is my first time. I'm going to be building a short barrel rifle. I've found the Form 1 but really don't know how to go about filling some of the stuff out such as the manufacture, etc. Also, what do I put down for the reason that I need it? Any help you can help will be great ...

http://www.titleii.com/pdf/NewF1.pdf

Edit: I guess it's the Form 1 since I'm building the rifle.

 

[03RangerXLT]

For reason, I recomend "For all legal purposes"

Manufacturer is the original manufacturer of the lower reciever (assuming we are talking about an AR)

Any other questions, just holler. I have done an SBR on a Form 1 with a trust successfully.

 

[sourpatch45]

i put "for collection and investment" as that is what my dealer put on my form 4s that were approved. im sure "for all lawful purposes" would work but to me it just sounds too vague

 

[sourpatch45]

oh and that is the old version of the form 1. there is a new one that you have to order from the atf website since they dont have a PDF of it. its free they just mail it to your house. if you look in the top right it says (10-31-2007)
and at the bottem it says (november 2004) the old one you posted might work but why take the chance, it is different from the new one and it would suck really bad to get it sent back because of a stupid mistake.

the correct one should say (xx-xx-2010) in the top right corner.

 

[22586]

Is an SBR a $200 tax stamp?

 

[sourpatch45]

Is an SBR a $200 tax stamp?

yes

 

[22586]

Thought so. Thanks.

 

[T.J.]

Is an SBR a $200 tax stamp?

unfortunaty yes it's just another way for big brother to get you to tell them you have a gun and take money out of your pocket to boot

Personally I think is BS especially since you can put a 5.5" barrel on a AR pistol with no tax stamp but if you put a stock on it (which makes it less concealable) without the stamp you get slapped with a 15 year prison term

Shhesh $200 to exercise your right to best arm which was given to you for free by the 2nd A

 

[ForTehNguyen]

that $200 is actually an old law from 1938 where they wanted to make things like this non affordable for the average person. Funny thign is they didnt change the $200 amount over the years, and $200 is affordable now

 

[RoninSteel]

that $200 is actually an old law from 1938 where they wanted to make things like this non affordable for the average person. Funny thign is they didnt change the $200 amount over the years, and $200 is affordable now

I did not know that, thanks!

 

[John A.]

I've never applied for a tax stamp or the like. This is my first time. I'm going to be building a short barrel rifle. I've found the Form 1 but really don't know how to go about filling some of the stuff out such as the manufacture, etc. Also, what do I put down for the reason that I need it? Any help you can help will be great ...

http://www.titleii.com/pdf/NewF1.pdf

Edit: I guess it's the Form 1 since I'm building the rifle.

Form 1.

Manufacturer is the original manufacturer. You'll also have to engrave the lower with your name (or trust) city and state to be in compliance since you'll technically be the manufacturer of the registered firearm. I recommend Jason @ Quentin Lasers for the engraving-- http://www.quentin-laser.com/

The reason for building on all 3 of my forms are as follows (I don't fool with the all lawful purposes part):

collection, heirloom, exersize my second amendment rights.

ETA: If you're doing this as an individual instead of business entity, you'll also have to get 2 passport quality photo's of yourself and glue one to the top/back of each form (2x2 inches-frontal) and you'll need two FD-258 FBI fingerprint cards and Chief Law Enforcement signature (unless you're going the trust route--in that case you'll also have to provide a notarized copy of your recognized trust). As has been stated, all of this is free from the ATF branch if you order it. Don't forget the $200 check and the wait times to get the forms back are long. The last set of forms I submitted took almost 3 months and the wait is even longer now.

Also a good link with info for NFA newbies. ModulARweapons.com :: View topic - NFA/SBR FAQ's and links

 

[cwd500]

is the 200 bucks a one time fee, and what esle would i have to do?

 

[ThumperMX113]

No, it's per item that you need. :lol:

 

[John A.]

is the 200 bucks a one time fee, and what esle would i have to do?

Submitting as Individual:


Clean background


18 or older


Buy receiver


get all the paperwork


fill out paperwork
--attach passport photo to back of form 1.

----Take completed paperwork to your local chief law enforcement officer and ask him to complete the back of it and sign it, and fingerprint you with only the FD-258 cards. (You mail the fingerprint cards with the paperwork)


$200 check or money order


mail everything to the address indicated on the form


have lower engraved with your info


wait and wait and wait and wait


when you get your paperwork back approved with the stamp attached and appropriate signatures from the NFA Branch either buy the upper you're going to use or shorten barrel

 

[ThumperMX113]

I thought you had to be 21 for all of that stuff including SBR, SBS, suppressors, etc?

 

[John A.]

In regards to rifles since this is what we're talking about:

Minimum Age to Purchase / Possess

Federal law prohibits firearms dealers from selling or delivering a shotgun or rifle, or ammunition for a shotgun or rifle, to any person under the age of 18. 18 U.S.C. § 922(b)(1), (c)(1).


ETA: I had to really dig deep to find this one. http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/NFAletterNothing.jpg


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[Polymerhead]

is the 200 bucks a one time fee, and what esle would i have to do?

Yes, one time per gun. If you want to sell it, the buyer also pays a $200 stamp fee and goes through a Form 4. Basically, SBRs don't transfer hands very often.

 

[XD45ACP]

oh and that is the old version of the form 1. there is a new one that you have to order from the atf website since they dont have a PDF of it. its free they just mail it to your house. if you look in the top right it says (10-31-2007)
and at the bottem it says (november 2004) the old one you posted might work but why take the chance, it is different from the new one and it would suck really bad to get it sent back because of a stupid mistake.

the correct one should say (xx-xx-2010) in the top right corner.

Actually, the ATF does provide a PDF version of the Form 4. You can get it from http://www.atf.gov/forms/pdfs/f53204.pdf.