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The subject pretty much says it all. At what range should I zero my 9mm XDM 5.25. Everything I've found pretty much says 25 yards for 9mm. I'm having an issue with my gun (which has been back at SA for over 2 weeks) and they are trying to tell me that the gun shooting low at 25 yards is normal. I disagree because with the same ammo, I do not have to raise my point of aim when shooting my 9mm Shield or Glock 19 and these guns obviously have shorter, non-match grade barrels and a shorter sight radius. The ballistics charts I've looked at all show 9mm starting to drop around 28 yards with 115 gr FMJ rounds, regardless of make. Thoughts?
 

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The subject pretty much says it all. At what range should I zero my 9mm XDM 5.25. Everything I've found pretty much says 25 yards for 9mm. I'm having an issue with my gun (which has been back at SA for over 2 weeks) and they are trying to tell me that the gun shooting low at 25 yards is normal. I disagree because with the same ammo, I do not have to raise my point of aim when shooting my 9mm Shield or Glock 19 and these guns obviously have shorter, non-match grade barrels and a shorter sight radius. The ballistics charts I've looked at all show 9mm starting to drop around 28 yards with 115 gr FMJ rounds, regardless of make. Thoughts?

The POA/POI is going to be a little different for every gun, it's just a matter of learning what works for you. When I first shot my XDM 4.5" in 45 I was disappointed because I thought it was shooting about 18" low. Part of the problem was that I needed to tighten up my grip, the other was not having the correct sight picture. Now I can empty the mag into the 10 ring at 7 yds with no problem whatsoever.
 

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what type of sight picture are you using? do you think you should be able to use the same sight picture at all ranges from 0 out to 25 yards?
 

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The subject pretty much says it all. At what range should I zero my 9mm XDM 5.25. Everything I've found pretty much says 25 yards for 9mm. I'm having an issue with my gun (which has been back at SA for over 2 weeks) and they are trying to tell me that the gun shooting low at 25 yards is normal. I disagree because with the same ammo, I do not have to raise my point of aim when shooting my 9mm Shield or Glock 19 and these guns obviously have shorter, non-match grade barrels and a shorter sight radius. The ballistics charts I've looked at all show 9mm starting to drop around 28 yards with 115 gr FMJ rounds, regardless of make. Thoughts?
Are you capable of shooting 1 inch groups offhand at any distance?

Your gun is not a target pistol its a combat weapon, at any distance from 5-25 yards the sight in and sight picture will not matter for combat accuracy.

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sschrick - According to page 40 of the XDM manual, these weapons are designed to shoot POA/POI at 25 yards, so, yes, I think I should be able to use the same sight picture at 25 yards as I do at 7 yards like I can with my M&P Shield (also 9mm). Mine is not doing this but I just got off the phone with the tech at SA and this will be resolved. My question stems from the fact that I was told by one of their tech people that bullet drop is normal @25 yards for a 9mm. The ballistic charts I've seen contradict his statement. For reference, I was shooting Federal and Winchester 115gr FMJ.

To answer dglocks question - yes, I can hold 1" groups at 7 yards shooting unsupported. I would also respectfully disagree with his statement that this particular gun isn't a target pistol. Being a 5.25 that is marketed as a competition model, I would say it is indeed a target pistol.

I appreciate everyone's input thus far.
 

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sschrick - According to page 40 of the XDM manual, these weapons are designed to shoot POA/POI at 25 yards, so, yes, I think I should be able to use the same sight picture at 25 yards as I do at 7 yards like I can with my M&P Shield (also 9mm). Mine is not doing this but I just got off the phone with the tech at SA and this will be resolved. My question stems from the fact that I was told by one of their tech people that bullet drop is normal @25 yards for a 9mm. The ballistic charts I've seen contradict his statement. For reference, I was shooting Federal and Winchester 115gr FMJ.

To answer dglocks question - yes, I can hold 1" groups at 7 yards shooting unsupported. I would also respectfully disagree with his statement that this particular gun isn't a target pistol. Being a 5.25 that is marketed as a competition model, I would say it is indeed a target pistol.

I appreciate everyone's input thus far.

My mistake,i didn't see that the gun was a 5.25. My statement about sight picture and combat shooting still stands.

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From a combat standpoint, I absolutely agree. In fact, I primarily shoot off my front sight when I practice for self defense.
 

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The subject pretty much says it all. At what range should I zero my 9mm XDM 5.25. Everything I've found pretty much says 25 yards for 9mm. I'm having an issue with my gun (which has been back at SA for over 2 weeks) and they are trying to tell me that the gun shooting low at 25 yards is normal. I disagree because with the same ammo, I do not have to raise my point of aim when shooting my 9mm Shield or Glock 19 and these guns obviously have shorter, non-match grade barrels and a shorter sight radius. The ballistics charts I've looked at all show 9mm starting to drop around 28 yards with 115 gr FMJ rounds, regardless of make. Thoughts?
What type sight picture are you using?

I use a center hold and my pistol hits dead center.
Try holding dead center, it should raise your point of impact if you are using a six o clock hold.
also I assume your elevation is non adjustable if so try lighter weight bullets which may help.
Possibly there are elevation adjustable combat sights but I have never seen any.
Give a post and let every one know how you solved the problem, good luck.
 

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At what range do you plan to shoot it?

How high/low is acceptable at ranges closer or further than you intend to shoot?
This.
 

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Most "in the know" prefer 15 yards. You'll be dead on at just about anything closer than that, and a little high at 25 (which is preferable to being low... if you have to compensate by aiming low, you can still see your target.)
 

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It all depends on the guns intended use. I would suggest 15yds to see where you are at. Then back it up to 25 to see where the gun is really at.
 

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There is a great range near Cody, WY if it's not too far for you to drive. :)


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This pic is a very old one when I had never used blazer brass before so ignore it's accuracy comments ( it's just loaded to higher pressure than federal so needed better grip)

The pic is at 25 yards factory zero ( all my firearms like that)
With standard center , no loliepoppin , at combat speed ( draw , aim , fire , reholster ) with a 4 second buzzer to hands free
 
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