Any one heard of plans of a sub-compact .45gap?
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That would be awesome, currently this is the cheapest and smallest .45 that they make that I'm aware of. They make one smaller barely, but its like an extra $300.
http://www.springfield-armory.com/prod-pstl-1911-uc.shtml
http://www.springfield-armory.com/prod-pstl-1911-uc.shtml
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I'm definitely getting one, if I have to sell my two babies, I'm going to be in line.
Thanks for overexciting me.
Thanks for overexciting me.
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Is this gun out yet?
The Springer Defender 45 GAP will be a significant pistol. It will be the first time respected 1911 manufacturer builds a gun in the 1911 platform competely designed around the 45 GAP cartridge. Other 45 GAP offerings (as good as they are) have been retro-fitted 9mm/40 pistols. In the same way the .380 has a market (9mm is more powerful, but 380s are more concealable), the Defender offers a similar downsizing for 1911 fans. Short framed (below 4") 1911s have a history of not being as reliable as the full sized guns. Speculation is that the shortened GAP cartridge will aid in eliminating some of those reliablity issues.
The Springer Defender 45 GAP will be a significant pistol. It will be the first time respected 1911 manufacturer builds a gun in the 1911 platform competely designed around the 45 GAP cartridge. Other 45 GAP offerings (as good as they are) have been retro-fitted 9mm/40 pistols. In the same way the .380 has a market (9mm is more powerful, but 380s are more concealable), the Defender offers a similar downsizing for 1911 fans. Short framed (below 4") 1911s have a history of not being as reliable as the full sized guns. Speculation is that the shortened GAP cartridge will aid in eliminating some of those reliablity issues.
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It will be a tough decision for all when it comes to the smaller
SA offerings.
I am torn between the Micro and Ultra Compact in .45ACP.
The Micro has a excellent following and there is a line around
the corner block to get the Ultra Compact.
My point is, that the XD in a sub compact chambered in
45GAP is going to have a tough row to hoe. It is my opinion
that SA is not going to shoot themselves in the foot by
offering up something that will not have a great market
appeal, even though the XD following is fantastic, myself
included.
Ed
SA offerings.
I am torn between the Micro and Ultra Compact in .45ACP.
The Micro has a excellent following and there is a line around
the corner block to get the Ultra Compact.
My point is, that the XD in a sub compact chambered in
45GAP is going to have a tough row to hoe. It is my opinion
that SA is not going to shoot themselves in the foot by
offering up something that will not have a great market
appeal, even though the XD following is fantastic, myself
included.
Ed
I disagree. There's a big difference in the XD line of pistols and 1911's. Glock didn't seem to have any problem with selling .45ACP or GAP for that matter. I just don't see people looking at the XD and 1911 and trying to choose one. I believe it's a totally different area of the market.Ed Ely said:
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I don't really look at it as competing with themselves, but more as creating a broader market. Chevy offers a Trailblazer and a Tahoe (along with many other models) so they can cross sell. You go into the lot to look at the Tahoe and say "thats a little too big for what I need" so the salesman shows you the Trailblazer. If you check out Springfields 1911s and decide "I want something plastic", instead of going over to Glock you have the option of the XD. In any case, Springfield would love to have the problem of people deciding between XD or 1911 subcompact 45s...either way they make a sale.Ed Ely said:
I posted this awhile back.
Maybe EFK will change their minds.
I e-mailed EFK and asked:
Do you have plans on making conversion barrels for sub-compact XDs??
And barrels in .45 GAP ?
Their answer:
Yes on the compact, No dates as yet.
No on the 45 GAP were not ask often an enough. thanks for asking.
Thank You,
Frank Betro
EFK Marketing/FireDragon
Maybe EFK will change their minds.
I e-mailed EFK and asked:
Do you have plans on making conversion barrels for sub-compact XDs??
And barrels in .45 GAP ?
Their answer:
Yes on the compact, No dates as yet.
No on the 45 GAP were not ask often an enough. thanks for asking.
Thank You,
Frank Betro
EFK Marketing/FireDragon
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I cannot see how they can make a conversion barrel in 45GAP to fitMisFire said:
the other caliber frames. The XD 45GAP frame is specific for the fit
of the 45GAP barrel. The mechancial arrangements in the 45GAP
frame are different, and the 45GAP barrel will not fit into any of the
other model frames. I have already tried all the combo's and made
a report on it in another thread.
Ed
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