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Springfield will be manufacturing a Micro Model in .45 GAP. The firearm will be called the, "Defender". I have read good reviews, one just recently in American Rifleman. There isn't much info out there yet as to when it will be available.
 

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The Defender is a 1911 model.
There is supposed to be a .45Gap XD Subbie in the works and last time I talked to an SA rep. it was looking to be summer when it's released.
 

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RTM2031 said:
Springfield will be manufacturing a Micro Model in .45 GAP. The firearm will be called the, "Defender". I have read good reviews, one just recently in American Rifleman. There isn't much info out there yet as to when it will be available.
The rep at the NRA convention in Houston told me they should be in the dealers hands in late August.

I got to handle one of them at the show, it is one SWEET pistol...
 

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Are we talking about the 1911 style Defender or the .45gap XD SubCompact?
Two completely diffferent guns there.
I was referring to the XD SC model.
 

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Verm said:
Are we talking about the 1911 style Defender or the .45gap XD SubCompact?
Two completely diffferent guns there.
I was referring to the XD SC model.
They're talking about the xd, I posted a link to the smallest .45 that springfield currently produced for reference.
 

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Is this gun out yet?

The Springer Defender 45 GAP will be a significant pistol. It will be the first time respected 1911 manufacturer builds a gun in the 1911 platform competely designed around the 45 GAP cartridge. Other 45 GAP offerings (as good as they are) have been retro-fitted 9mm/40 pistols. In the same way the .380 has a market (9mm is more powerful, but 380s are more concealable), the Defender offers a similar downsizing for 1911 fans. Short framed (below 4") 1911s have a history of not being as reliable as the full sized guns. Speculation is that the shortened GAP cartridge will aid in eliminating some of those reliablity issues.
 

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It will be a tough decision for all when it comes to the smaller
SA offerings.

I am torn between the Micro and Ultra Compact in .45ACP.
The Micro has a excellent following and there is a line around
the corner block to get the Ultra Compact.

My point is, that the XD in a sub compact chambered in
45GAP is going to have a tough row to hoe. It is my opinion
that SA is not going to shoot themselves in the foot by
offering up something that will not have a great market
appeal, even though the XD following is fantastic, myself
included.

Ed
 

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Ed Ely said:
It will be a tough decision for all when it comes to the smaller
SA offerings.

I am torn between the Micro and Ultra Compact in .45ACP.
The Micro has a excellent following and there is a line around
the corner block to get the Ultra Compact.

My point is, that the XD in a sub compact chambered in
45GAP is going to have a tough row to hoe. It is my opinion
that SA is not going to shoot themselves in the foot by
offering up something that will not have a great market
appeal, even though the XD following is fantastic, myself
included.

Ed
I disagree. There's a big difference in the XD line of pistols and 1911's. Glock didn't seem to have any problem with selling .45ACP or GAP for that matter. I just don't see people looking at the XD and 1911 and trying to choose one. I believe it's a totally different area of the market.
 

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The point that I did not get across is that Glock is not
competing with themselves and Springfield is. Plastic
vs. metal (.45ACP or .45GAP).

Ed
 

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Ed Ely said:
The point that I did not get across is that Glock is not
competing with themselves and Springfield is. Plastic
vs. metal (.45ACP or .45GAP).

Ed
I don't really look at it as competing with themselves, but more as creating a broader market. Chevy offers a Trailblazer and a Tahoe (along with many other models) so they can cross sell. You go into the lot to look at the Tahoe and say "thats a little too big for what I need" so the salesman shows you the Trailblazer. If you check out Springfields 1911s and decide "I want something plastic", instead of going over to Glock you have the option of the XD. In any case, Springfield would love to have the problem of people deciding between XD or 1911 subcompact 45s...either way they make a sale.
 

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mavisky said:
Verm said:
Are we talking about the 1911 style Defender or the .45gap XD SubCompact?
Two completely diffferent guns there.
I was referring to the XD SC model.
They're talking about the xd, I posted a link to the smallest .45 that springfield currently produced for reference.
Count me in for an XD Sub Compact .45GAP.


Especially, if there are the magazine sleeves that would allow the mags for the XD 45GAP Tactical to be used in it during a reload. <KoolAid Man voice="on">OOHHHH YEAH!!!!</KoolAid Man>

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I posted this awhile back.
Maybe EFK will change their minds.

I e-mailed EFK and asked:

Do you have plans on making conversion barrels for sub-compact XDs??
And barrels in .45 GAP ?


Their answer:

Yes on the compact, No dates as yet.
No on the 45 GAP were not ask often an enough. thanks for asking.
Thank You,
Frank Betro
EFK Marketing/FireDragon
 

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MisFire said:
I posted this awhile back.
Maybe EFK will change their minds.

I e-mailed EFK and asked:

Do you have plans on making conversion barrels for sub-compact XDs??
And barrels in .45 GAP ?


Their answer:

Yes on the compact, No dates as yet.
No on the 45 GAP were not ask often an enough. thanks for asking.
Thank You,
Frank Betro
EFK Marketing/FireDragon
I cannot see how they can make a conversion barrel in 45GAP to fit
the other caliber frames. The XD 45GAP frame is specific for the fit
of the 45GAP barrel. The mechancial arrangements in the 45GAP
frame are different, and the 45GAP barrel will not fit into any of the
other model frames. I have already tried all the combo's and made
a report on it in another thread.

Ed
 

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I just an email from Springfield that there is an increasing demand for it.

Also, I have no problems passing your idea on for a 3" XD .45 GAP.
We've been getting quite a few requests for that lately.

John Moe
Dealer Service Representative
wganz
 
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