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Is the general concensus that ammo prices are going to sky rocket after the 4th? Some people say they will, if everyone is going out and buying ammo after the election (assuming nobama wins) then availability will go down and the price will go up. Is it wise to stock up now? I reload, and have enough to reload for the next 8 months. I guess I could just stop shooting!:cry:
 

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AIMs and Wideners are getting hit with a huge volume of orders and they are taking 1-2 days just to even ship the item. I've heard scrap metal prices for copper have fallen but you wont see any effect until the current ammo is sold. The demand for ammo is really high now in addition to hardware.
 

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At this point, I don't think anyone really knows what will happen, but you can rest assured that if NObama gets elected, demand for ammo will increase even more than it already has in the last few months. Prices on ammo have increased quite a bit just in the last year or so, but that has more to do with current military engagements, contracts to the US Gov't for ammo, etc. Electing NObama to the White House after he has voiced his intent to drive up prices on ammo by 500%, reinstitute an AWB, etc., will only make matters worse!!
 

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I have definately noticed that some local boys are jacked up a lil' bit already, over $6 for federal shotty slugs! yikes...
 

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Today is always a good time to buy ammo, because its never going to be cheaper. And if Obama gets elected, prices will go up significantly due to the 500% tax hike on guns and ammo.


Some more facts on Obama:

FACT: Barack Obama voted to allow reckless lawsuits designed to bankrupt the firearms industry.1
FACT: Barack Obama wants to re-impose the failed and discredited Clinton Gun Ban.2
FACT: Barack Obama voted to ban almost all rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.3
FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a complete ban on handgun ownership.2
FACT: Barack Obama supports local gun bans in Chicago, Washington, D.C., and other cities.4
FACT: Barack Obama voted to uphold local gun bans and the criminal prosecution of people who use firearms in self-defense.5
FACT: Barack Obama supports gun owner licensing and gun registration.6
FACT: Barack Obama refused to sign a friend-of-the-court Brief in support of individual Second Amendment rights in the Heller case.
FACT: Barack Obama opposes Right to Carry laws.7
FACT: Barack Obama was a member of the Board of Directors of the Joyce Foundation, the leading source of funds for anti-gun organizations and “research.”8
FACT: Barack Obama supported a proposal to ban gun stores within 5 miles of a school or park, which would eliminate almost every gun store in America.9
FACT: Barack Obama voted not to notify gun owners when the state of Illinois did records searches on them.10
FACT: Barack Obama voted against a measure to lower the Firearms Owners Identification card age minimum from 21 to 18, a measure designed to assist young people in the military.11
FACT: Barack Obama favors a ban on standard capacity magazines.12
FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory micro-stamping.13
FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory waiting periods.2
FACT: Barack Obama supports repeal of the Tiahrt Amendment, which prohibits information on gun traces collected by the BATFE from being used in reckless lawsuits against firearm dealers and manufacturers.14
FACT: Barack Obama supports one-gun-a-month sales restrictions.9
FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on inexpensive handguns.9
FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on the resale of police issued firearms, even if the money is going to police departments for replacement equipment.9
FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory firearm training requirements for all gun owners and a ban on gun ownership for persons under the age of 21.9

1. United States Senate, S. 397, vote number 219, July 2, 2005. (http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote =00219)
2. Independent Voters of Illinois/Independent Precinct Organization general candidate questionnaire, Sept. 9, 1996. The responses on this survey were described in “Obama had greater role on liberal survey,” Politico, March 31, 20087. (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9269.html)
3. United States Senate, S. 397, vote number 217, Kennedy amendment July 2, 2005. (http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote =00217)
4. David Wright, Ursula Fahy and Sunlen Miller, "Obama: 'Common Sense Regulation' On Gun Owners' Rights," ABC News' "Political Radar" Blog, http://blogs.abcnews.com, 2/15/08. (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/02/obama-common-se.html)
5. Illinois Senate, March 25, 2004 SB 2165, vote 20.
6. “Fact Check: No News In Obama's Consistent Record.” Obama ’08, December 11, 2007. (http://www.barackobama.com/factcheck/2007/12/11/fact_check_no_news_in_obamas_c.php)
7. “Candidates' gun control positions may figure in Pa. vote,” Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, Wednesday, April 2, 2008, and "Keyes, Obama Are Far Apart On Guns," Chicago Tribune, 9/15/04. (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/s_560181.html)
8. 1998 Joyce Foundation Annual Report, p. 7. (http://www.joycefdn.org/pdf/98_AnnualReport.pdf)
9. “Obama and Gun Control,” The Volokh Conspiracy, taken from the Chicago Defender, Dec. 13, 1999. (http://www.volokh.com/posts/1203389334.shtml)
10. Illinois Senate, May 5, 2002, SB 1936 Con., vote 26.
11. Illinois Senate, March 25, 2003, SB 2163, vote 18.
12. “Clinton, Edwards, Obama on gun control,” Radio Iowa, Sunday, April 22, 2007. (http://learfield.typepad.com/radioiowa/2007/04/clinton_edwards.html)
13. Chicago Tribune blogs, “Barack Obama: NIU Shootings call for action,” February 15, 2008, (http://blogs.trb.com/news/politics/blog/2008/02/barack_obama_comments_on_shoot.html)
14. Barack Obama campaign website: “As president, Barack Obama would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment . . .” (http://www.barackobama.com/issues/urbanpolicy/#crime-and-law-enforcement.)




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Nobama and his ideals really anger me. I want to stock up on supplies, but I dont really want to spend the money at this time. Looks like I may just stop shooting, and store everything I reload incase SdoesHTF.:mad:
 

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If we leave Iraq (something that may well happen sooner if Obama wins), that will reduce the military's demand for ammo, which is purportedly the reason why ammo shot up in price originally.

I've been saving brass, bought some more primers yesterday, and this all is one reason why I got into reloading.

I suspect most of the hysteria over Obama and guns is just that, but as always, YMMV.
 

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yeah, I am going to get more powder and primers. Get enough bullets for my rifles to last me many seasons of hunting, and 100 golden sabres for the 45's. I could easily drop a grand and have enough to reload a few thousand rounds of 45 and 9mm, but I dont think its worth breaking the bank. I love to shoot, love to reload, but not sure stocking up is worth it. If nobama doesnt get elected, then the prices wont sky rocket, and I am stuck with a bill i dont really need at this time. Such a delima! Damn liberals and their unrealistic views of reality!:mad:
 

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Many people on this forum and others are complaining about the economy, high gas prices, high food prices etc. and yet they are buying more ammo and guns. What's wrong with this picture?
 

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Many people on this forum and others are complaining about the economy, high gas prices, high food prices etc. and yet they are buying more ammo and guns. What's wrong with this picture?
1) People are taking it upon themselves to protect themselves
2) When economy sucks, crime goes up
3) Ammo and weapons stay good for a long time
4) Food and gas wont be banned anytime soon
 

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Speaking for myself only, ammo and guns are a priority now because of the upcoming election. If they were going to be banning gasoline in a month, then that would be my priority.
 

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If we leave Iraq (something that may well happen sooner if Obama wins), that will reduce the military's demand for ammo, which is purportedly the reason why ammo shot up in price originally.

I've been saving brass, bought some more primers yesterday, and this all is one reason why I got into reloading.

I suspect most of the hysteria over Obama and guns is just that, but as always, YMMV.
It's not really histeria. The current Congress is very left leaning & only waiting to get a Dem. liberal president on board so they can go back to pushing guns laws. It's real my friend, make sure your vote is in the right place.
 

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Good thing I've been saving all that brass! I'm buying reloading equipment before it gets banned too!!!!!! Guess I'll eat noodles and rice for a few weeks.
 

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Back to ammunition, a guy somewhere on this forum suggested Welcome to Ammunition To Go!, and I placed my first order with them late last month and they have incredible prices. I checked their prices on Federal Tacitcal Fleet Control 00 buckshot and it's the same price it was last month. That being said, I'm placing my second order on the next payday.

Also, they ship to you wicked fast.
 

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yeah, their prices are awesome.
 

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Don't you realize that Obama sat on FatCheck.Org for quite some time? :shock:
Ohh geez, I can just tell this is going to spin into off-topic locked land pretty soon. <puts on flame retardant suit>

Obama was on the board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge which was a program to reform Chicago public schools. The CAC was sponsored by the Annenberg Foundation (a filanthropic foundation that provides grants for educational organizations and projects). The CAC was also in part founded by terrorist, distinguished proffesor and "Citizen of the Year" William Ayers.

The Annenberg Foundation provides funding for FactCheck.org which I believe (based on their whois info) is based out of Annenberg Public Policy Center at UPenn. I can't find any direct connection between Obama and FactCheck.org or any ties between FactCheck and UIC or the University of Chicago.
 
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