While I posted the Nikon, I agree with the EOTech being a good choice. It really depends on what your use is to be AND which type of optic works best for you. It is an individual choice.i have an eotech on mine. not a bad price if you buy the older one.
Hmmm....I like this....not bad. And with the 2x (if/when you can find it) that's almost the perfect entry-level HOLO/Red-Dot sight.You may want to look into the Lucid HD7 if you're on a budget. It's a lower 1/3 optic for an AR, exceptionally durable, and only costs $200. Lucid's primary market is municipal, not civilian, but they're available to everyone.
I have this scope and love it. I use it for hunting hogs, varmints and plinking and couldn't be happier.Nikon M-223 Rifle Scope 1-4x 20mm Point Blank Reticle Matte
The Nikon M223 Rifle Scope is a tactical scope designed for use on AR-style rifles or tactical bolt action rifles The scope features Nikon's Ultra ClearCoat Optical System to provide up to 95% light transmission, 4 inches of constant eye relief and a sturdy 1-piece tube Another feature of the M223 is the new return to zero turrets which simplify adjustments for different ranges at the range or in the field The Nikon M223 Rifle Scope is covered by a lifetime factory warranty Technical Information
■ Tube Diameter: 1"
■ Objective Bell Diameter: 1"
■ Ocular Bell Diameter: 41mm
■ Adjustment Click Value: 1/4 MOA
■ Eye Relief: 4"
■ Exit Pupil Diameter: 4mm
■ Field of View at 100 Yards: •929' @ 1x •231' @ 4x
I don't disagree with this IF you are actually in need of such high end equipment. However, any decent scope sized and appropriately mounted to an AR will suffice for range or hunting purposes and some, like the M223 Nikon can excell at their intended purpose, such as 3 gun competition. Breaking the bank isn't necessary unless you actually need the capabilities of an ACOG vs. good, high quality optics from Nikon, Leupold, Vortex and other manufacturers of good glass. JMHO.May I suggest that you save up and get a good one, so you don't have to think about some day I am going to upgrade my scope. Trijicon & Aim point botha are very good and will last for a long long time. I personally like Trijicon Acog no need for battery. Compare some other scoop its has very wide filed of view. Its expensive but you got what you paid for.
Under the $400 range for any glass, you really start getting undesirable characteristics.
Unrepeatable zero after adjusting the turrets
Fish eyed field of view
Lackluster light transmission at upper magnification
Issues with fogging/weather conditions (regardless how it is marketed)
Short battery life *for illuminated reticles
Small sight picture
Never said it was a better optic than the Leupold which, in fact, I even mentioned earlier. Just that it is good glass, serves my purpose well, holds zero, isn't a bit sloppy when adjusting, is bright and a good buy for the purpose as are most Nikon products. Those facts given, there is no compromise and while I could opt to spend hundreds more, see no purpose to it. My experience with the brand itself also gives me confidence in the product. My experience with Nikon goes back to the sixties, BTW. Incidentally, by your post, the Leupold would also be "compromised" because of price. A faulty conclusion IMHO. One, however you are entitled to since you spend your money and I only spend mine.A 20mm objective lens is mathematically going to be suffering with light transmission at 4x, regardless if it's $3k glass.
At 7x my leupold is dragging in as much light as that is at 4x while being lighter, and roughly the same length. Not to mention the leupold has a larger objective and is illuminated.
The nikon m223 sacrifices things off my list which is why it's a budget optic. It's in the same league as the leupold mark AR series. Which lets start splitting hair here, shall we?
First off, the M223 isn't true 1x regardless how it's advertised, at least leupold isn't trying to fool people and marks theirs as 1.5-4x.
Weight, the M223 is 13.93oz! The mark AR 1.5-4x is 9.5oz.
Size, the M223 is 10.35" long, the mark AR is 9.2" long.
FOV, the M223 offers 23.1'@100yrds(4x) and 92.9'@100yrds(1x), the mark AR offers 28.5'@100yrds(4x) and 75.0'@100yrds(1.5x).
Price for the nikon M223 is $230, price of the mark AR is $260, taking the prices from the same retailer.
Tell me what exactly makes it a better optic?