[Hegs]

I have browsed this forum for a while now, but have finally decided it was time to make an account.

I am a long time shooter and only own two handguns myself, a Walther P99AS Full size 9mm and a Walther PPS .40S&W. Yet I have shot plenty of other handguns: loads of .22s; S&W bodyguard and Sig P238 (.380); FN FiveSeven (5.7x28mm); Beretta 92FS, Browning Hi-power, XD sub-compact (9mm); S&W 360PD (.38 + .357); S&W M&P (.40); Kimber Custom Carry II (.45) and probably some I have forgotten about.

Now, as you may or may not have noticed, I own a 9mm, and a .40S&W, so logically I am now looking to get a .45ACP. My dad owns the XD sub-compact (9mm) listed above and I like the way it shoots. I am therefore looking at getting an XDm in .45! Just my luck they are giving away free magazines these next couple months, yea, more ammo to burn! Anyway, I had a couple of questions that I am hoping some of you would be able to help me out with.

I just experienced using night sights for the first time last weekend, and man was I impressed at how bright they were just after dusk. Therefore I was really hoping to get a pair on my new .45. I guess I should preface this with saying that my PPS is my carry weapon due to its concealability, and plan on using the .45 for a farm gun/target/plinking/dueling trees etc. If they were to come out with a compact .45 though, it would most likely top my list just for the potential of being able to carry it if I wanted to.

On to the questions. With the new 5.25" just coming out, is it worth the extra money? Please correct me if I am wrong, but these are the advantages and disadvantages that I see with this new version:

1. The lightening cut, whilst making the gun lighter would have potential for allowing debris to enter the slide of the gun.

2. The longer length will most likely add some accuracy to the shots, but also hinder holstering and maneuverability.

3. Finally, I am a fan of 3 dot sights, was really looking forward to getting some night sights on my next handgun. Yet I was informed that night sights are not offered at the time on the competition series. Now, don't get me wrong, I'd love having fully adjustable sights, but with the rear sight being, from the pictures I see, all black, that makes me a little distraught, are they quick to get used to? Are fully adjustable match sights easy to replace if I don't end up liking them?
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Anyways, thanks for putting up with me and reading my post. Any thoughts, comments or suggestions are welcomed! Thanks a ton in advance.

 

[AZXD]

I guess I should preface this with saying that my PPS is my carry weapon due to its concealability, and plan on using the .45 for a farm gun/target/plinking/dueling trees etc.

Based on your criteria, perhaps you should look at a 5" Tactical in 45ACP ... Bud's Gun Shop has one listed for a bit over $500 with free shipping, and you might be able to find one with night sights on it for the same or more/less, if you do some searching.

 

[Jokerpro]

If money isn't really an issue and you are looking at shooting it around the farm then I would go with the 5.25". Its more accurate and you can show it off to your friends.

 

[Clinton1621]

The 5.25 XDm is designed to be used as a competition series weapon, for the money I would just get the 5 inch XD... having fired both XD's and XDm's I can tell you that the only major difference is appearance, the XDm's IMO are not more accurate.

 

[Hegs]

Based on your criteria, perhaps you should look at a 5" Tactical in 45ACP ... Bud's Gun Shop has one listed for a bit over $500 with free shipping, and you might be able to find one with night sights on it for the same or more/less, if you do some searching.

Thanks for the link. What does the 5" Tactical offer that the XDm does not? I'm not really familiar with that gun as I have mainly just researched the XDm. I was figuring that if I didnt care about the cost (realistically... aka 100$ more is w/e) then there would be no point in not getting the XDm. Am I missing something in that mindset?

If money isn't really an issue and you are looking at shooting it around the farm then I would go with the 5.25". Its more accurate and you can show it off to your friends.

I think my friends would definitely be wanting to shoot my gun! That is for sure, and I am completely fine with that as well.... as long as they are paying for ammo!

The 5.25 XDm is designed to be used as a competition series weapon, for the money I would just get the 5 inch XD... having fired both XD's and XDm's I can tell you that the only major difference is appearance, the XDm's IMO are not more accurate.

I do like the XDm bi-tone look. I'm not saying the XDs are ugly, my dad's black XD9sc is very nice, but if I can get the look I want with the features I want, why not!?

My only concern is the rear sight. I've always been a fan of 3 dot 6 o'clock hold. With the fully adjustable sights I can get that hold, but I'm unsure of what the rear sight's... for lack of a better term... sight picture is.

Do the sight systems on these competition models work well during the day and at dusk? Will I be able to upgrade the rear sight at some point if I deem necessary or is the adjustable rear sight permanently fixed on the slide?

All these questions may prove unnecessary if AZXD provides me with sufficient information to persuade to a regular XD

 

[Yoopermike]

. If they were to come out with a compact .45 though, it would most likely top my list just for the potential of being able to carry it if I wanted to.

They do, I carry my xd45c every day

 

[Hegs]

They do, I carry my xd45c every day

Sorry, my initial statement meant 45c XDm, which was while I was still under the assumption (which I kind of still am) that I should get an XDm due to the fact that, correct me if I am wrong, you don't really lose anything upgrading to the "M"... except for maybe a 45c of course!

 

[Yoopermike]

give it time, im sure that after a while there will be an xdm compact .45 The M has the whole "m" factor about it, lots more in detail at their website. but I see no significant difference between the 2. and maybe about $100

 

[Clinton1621]

Theres not much of a difference between the XD and the XDm... looks is the major difference... other than that the XDm does not require pulling the trigger for disassembly, the XDm holds a couple more rounds, the XDm barrels are supposed to have tighter tolerances (havent seen any proof of this making them more accurate though), and the XDm has changeable backstraps. Its the same weapon with a few more bells and whistles that sound good until you figure out they dont offer any advantage... other than a higher profit to the place you bought it from!

Please note that I am not biased because I actually bought an XDm... after several range trips and comparisons to a plain XD, the only thing I liked better about the XDm of mine was the looks.

 

[AZXD]

Theres not much of a difference between the XD and the XDm... looks is the major difference... other than that the XDm does not require pulling the trigger for disassembly, the XDm holds a couple more rounds, the XDm barrels are supposed to have tighter tolerances (havent seen any proof of this making them more accurate though), and the XDm has changeable backstraps. Its the same weapon with a few more bells and whistles that sound good until you figure out they dont offer any advantage... other than a higher profit to the place you bought it from!

Please note that I am not biased because I actually bought an XDm... after several range trips and comparisons to a plain XD, the only thing I liked better about the XDm of mine was the looks.

I'm still waiting for that test to be published.

 

[Hegs]

I'm still waiting for that test to be published.

You should go ahead and produce, process, and document your findings!

 

[AZXD]

You should go ahead and produce, process, and document your findings!

Send me a ransom style rest, and a few guns

 

[Hegs]

Send me a ransom style rest, and a few guns

How about I create the Excel Template for your statistics!?
...I'm an engineer, its what I do, and come to think of it, its what I should be doing right now *shrug*

 

[AZXD]

How about I create the Excel Template for your statistics!?
...I'm an engineer, its what I do, and come to think of it, its what I should be doing right now *shrug*

I can handle that, and seriously,
I was advised, when I questioned the accuracy of the 5.25, that a well known, and sponsored shooter, was conducting a test, and the data would be published, soon.

That statement is on this forum, and I sensed a bit of hostility for even questioning how much more accurate the gun is than the other XD/XDm's ... I'll wait for that article.

$$$

 

[gdgrant]

I can handle that, and seriously,
I was advised, when I questioned the accuracy of the 5.25, that a well known, and sponsored shooter, was conducting a test, and the data would be published, soon.

That statement is on this forum, and I sensed a bit of hostility for even questioning how much more accurate the gun is than the other XD/XDm's ... I'll wait for that article.

$$$

Have you ever shot this pistol? The bottom line is - NO. Why do you continue to post negative comments before actually trying this pistol out?

 

[Hegs]

Have you ever shot this pistol? The bottom line is - NO. Why do you continue to post negative comments before actually trying this pistol out?

Your signature says SA XDM 5.25" but doesn't say which caliber, therefore am I correct in assuming it is the 9mm? I only assume because at one point the 9mm was the only 5.25". Either way can you let me know your thoughts on the factory sight picture? Thanks in advance.

 

[gdgrant]

Your signature says SA XDM 5.25" but doesn't say which caliber, therefore am I correct in assuming it is the 9mm? I only assume because at one point the 9mm was the only 5.25". Either way can you let me know your thoughts on the factory sight picture? Thanks in advance.

I just changed my signature to reflect the 5.25 9mm. I think my signature has made me a braggart and I don't want to be thought of that way.

The factory sights on the 5.25 are the best sights I have seen on a stock auto pistol - and match most of my revolvers (except the Colt King Cobra of course).

 

[XDM9CWA]

In my experience the xd's and xdm's shoot similarly. But i like my xdm compact best.

That said i wont be buying any more xd's because i like the xdm in my hands and not because it shoots better but just feels right. I'm always for value so its not because its a more expensive gun or what not. It just feels better. That said my xd40sc is my carry. Dont try to figure me out or question why. It just is.

My 5.25 actually shoots worse than my xdm compact for now because i havent gotten used to it. Although I can tell it has great potential for better accuracy. But thats just my early biased observation

 

[gdgrant]

In my experience the xd's and xdm's shoot similarly. But i like my xdm compact best.

That said i wont be buying any more xd's because i like the xdm in my hands and not because it shoots better but just feels right. I'm always for value so its not because its a more expensive gun or what not. It just feels better. That said my xd40sc is my carry. Dont try to figure me out or question why. It just is.

My 5.25 actually shoots worse than my xdm compact for now because i havent gotten used to it. Although I can tell it has great potential for better accuracy. But thats just my early biased observation

My 5.25 actually shoots worse than my xdm compact for now because i havent gotten used to it.

Are you shooting at close ranges like <= 15 yards?

 

[XDM9CWA]

Are you shooting at close ranges like <= 15 yards?

yes. But same thing happens when i use the full length magazine extension on my xdmc. So i know its me