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I just recieved my order from midwayusa.com of 2 of these

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=938507

My 1st question is...they market them as 30 round capacity, yet I've seen people on here mention 32 round capacity. To make it even weirder, out of my excitment of getting these mags that I have been waiting for I loaded em up...and I loaded 34 rounds with somewhat ease. I stopped and didn't put anymore in. Do you think the reason that they market it as a 30 round mag is to keep the tension in the spring at it's maximum performance?


2nd question is in the modification needed to magazine catch, did you do anything different than drilling a hole (don't know drill bit size yet). Looking at the magazine release lip it is in the shape of a half a circle, where as the hole to be drilled will be obviously round.
 

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Hey, could you show us a picture of that badboy in the pistol? Holy cow...

-James
(...contemplates buying one.)
 

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pd40 said:
1 question..

why the hell would you want a magazine that friggin huge? 12rds is more than enough for me :D
Your not him, so why question his wants and needs?
 

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to answer your question, for shooting at the range. With the mags I now have...I am able to shoot 100 rounds without reloading any mags. I know there are a few of you out there with these mags.. any help?
 

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well i own one for my ruger p89 and it also holds 34 rounds i think its just for spring tension but i load mine with 34 all the time and it functions fine and i also use it for the range not just to look crazy or cool . you'll learn to love this mag at the range even though it takes a little longer to load also it looks good in the gun ( at least to me ) :D
 

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I was going to drill em and try em out today at the range, but we just got dumped on, and I would have had to snowshoe into the range. My friend backed out so we postponed the trip until next weekend
 

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I ordered a 30 round clip for my S&W model 59 and it fits the SA XD9 too. I just opened the hole that it had on the front of the clip with a drill bit now all i need to do is get a small metal file and file the top of the hole flat like on the XD mags. got the clip from clipdepot for 27 bucks.
 

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First off, please..."magazine". I think the only thing that really uses "clips" (besides those used to charge magazines in military weapons) is the M-1 Garand with its "En Bloc" clips.

Now, I really don't understand these 30-round magazines. I mean, magazines are fairly delicate instruments. That is why the pistol's lower wraps around the magazine--to protect the relatively weak metal from damage that could occur during use.

What's more, if we view going to range as a training exercise, ejecting a spent magazine and loading a fresh one, should be part of the experience. Additionally, by using a 30-round magazine, one would drastically alter the shooting of the pistol because of the extreme rearward bias of having put so many rounds on the back of the pistol.

Finally, doesn't it just look ugly? By putting that magazine on the pistol, I would imagine that you disturb the lines of the gun.

Just my two cents, but really, I can't get my head around the big magazine.
 

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First off, please..."magazine". I think the only thing that really uses "clips" (besides those used to charge magazines in military weapons) is the M-1 Garand with its "En Bloc" clips.

Now, I really don't understand these 30-round magazines. I mean, magazines are fairly delicate instruments. That is why the pistol's lower wraps around the magazine--to protect the relatively weak metal from damage that could occur during use.

What's more, if we view going to range as a training exercise, ejecting a spent magazine and loading a fresh one, should be part of the experience. Additionally, by using a 30-round magazine, one would drastically alter the shooting of the pistol because of the extreme rearward bias of having put so many rounds on the back of the pistol.

Finally, doesn't it just look ugly? By putting that magazine on the pistol, I would imagine that you disturb the lines of the gun.

Just my two cents, but really, I can't get my head around the big magazine.
I bet you would change your mind real quick if you ended up in a fire fight against someone with body armor on.
 

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Kiowa,
However, if I were in a fire fight, I would rather have magazines that could not be easily deformed. I imagine you are in the military...don't you train firing from behind barricades? Moving in and out of concealment could easily lead to a situation where one can damage a magazine should it be too long. Besides, if a pistol is my last line of defense against someone using body armor I have bigger problems than reloading after 12 rounds.
 

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My military training ended in 1975. I imagine they do a lot of things different now. A 30 round mag would be something fun for the range. Once it was proven reliable at the range I would (if I had one) keep it in my truck. Basically I wouldn't depend on it for a personal protection tool. But if I ran into Rambo on the street (not likely) I would at least have some extra ammo in case the 2 factory mags I carry wouldn't be enough (not likey) for the job. Other than that it would remain in the truck for range use.
Remember most gunfights are at close range and don't last long.
 

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one-eyed-fatman said:
A 30 round mag would be something fun for the range.
Most people are apparently incapable of understanding that concept. It either has to be uber-tactical to satisfy some made up threat situation or it's a worthless endeavor to them.

Enjoy the mags, tell us how they work. I'd like to get one FOR THE RANGE myself.
 

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if you can't do it with 10 or 12, you won't do it with 30+. Besides, how would you get productive range time with this "magazine"? When I'm at the range I only load 5 rounds in a magazine at a time. That way you can concentrate on skills rather than just putting holes on a peice of paper. After one 30rd mag you wouldn't be able to tell how well you placed your shots. Your shooting vision would be poor after that long.

I personally wouldn't feel comfortable being in the lane next to a person just squeezing off rounds randomly without any thought or purpose in form. But that's just a ex-soldier talking.
 

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if you can't do it with 10 or 12, you won't do it with 30+. Besides, how would you get productive range time with this "magazine"? When I'm at the range I only load 5 rounds in a magazine at a time. That way you can concentrate on skills rather than just putting holes on a peice of paper. After one 30rd mag you wouldn't be able to tell how well you placed your shots. Your shooting vision would be poor after that long.

I personally wouldn't feel comfortable being in the lane next to a person just squeezing off rounds randomly without any thought or purpose in form. But that's just a ex-soldier talking.
That's what I was gonna say. If you can't get 'er done in 12, you won't do it with 30. And usually, when you stick a 30 round mag in a gun, you playing, not practicing.
 

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if you can't do it with 10 or 12, you won't do it with 30+. Besides, how would you get productive range time with this "magazine"? When I'm at the range I only load 5 rounds in a magazine at a time. That way you can concentrate on skills rather than just putting holes on a peice of paper. After one 30rd mag you wouldn't be able to tell how well you placed your shots. Your shooting vision would be poor after that long.

I personally wouldn't feel comfortable being in the lane next to a person just squeezing off rounds randomly without any thought or purpose in form. But that's just a ex-soldier talking.
Apparently you go to a standard range. I have a place where I can put up 5 to 8 targets at a time. And I can change them out at will. There's usually no one else around. So I can shoot as intended rather than having to wait on everyone else and so forth.
Not sure why putting 5 rounds in at a time would help you concentrate but to each his own. Also just because you have a 30 round mag does not mean you have to shoot them all off at the same time. You could very easily shoot them five at a time so you could concentrate on what your doing. Somebody with a 30 round mag can load up and shoot just as slow and deliberate as someone who puts one round in at a time. I think you guy's are just freaking out due to the number of rounds the mag holds.
 

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impcmonk said:
if you can't do it with 10 or 12, you won't do it with 30+. Besides, how would you get productive range time with this "magazine"? When I'm at the range I only load 5 rounds in a magazine at a time. That way you can concentrate on skills rather than just putting holes on a peice of paper. After one 30rd mag you wouldn't be able to tell how well you placed your shots. Your shooting vision would be poor after that long.

I personally wouldn't feel comfortable being in the lane next to a person just squeezing off rounds randomly without any thought or purpose in form. But that's just a ex-soldier talking.
some of us spend more time at the range than others, I guess. I don't have a 30 rounder, but I've been asked when I've fired off my 12 rounder in quick succession... mostly because they were well placed I hope. But I would think you can practice your skills longer if you spent less time loading magazines. I've been at the range longer than the hour they suggest, several times. I don't think they've ever charged me over. Plus, outdoors is a nice range too. No time limit on a nice day.
 

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i have one of these magazines. it works fine for me. i didn't buy it to carry it. i bought it to have fun with it.

and i hope you have fun with yours as well. :)
 

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one of the most useless things in the world is the runway behind you and a empty mag. in a gun fight.

i am working on a tower for my beta "C" mag to fit it to an xd.
Why? just for the fun of it!

as far as 30 rounds making it hard to tell where you have hit the target.

if you keep them all in the same hole, what to tell?
 
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